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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6116726">Sure, the DM has the right to control their campaign, if they're not willing to do so well...then you get some crazy stuff.  I personally think there should be some form of racial advancement that can be conducted in parallel to class advancement.  Maybe every 4-5 levels or so you gain something small, an improvement to a racial feature, a new minor feature that gives you access to more potent things down the road.  Larger racial features could be optional feats.Lets say you have a 4-armed race.  Well initially you gain no bonuses and no penalties because of this.  As your racial traits become available, you can say, choose martial or magic mastery, which gives you access to full-fledged feats that allow you to wield extra weapons or cast an extra low-level spell that doesn't require a Vocal component.Because you're not advancing your race as a class, you're not gaining huge, game-breaking abilities.  You're simply becoming more competent in what you've got.Yep...and a LA 6 creature was never on par with a fully ECL 7 PC, and it only got worse as they advanced in level.  Races should either have that kernel of "base race" to them, or they should simply be unplayable, as 4e did.  Either a race was playable, or it wasn't.  Races that were made playable from monsters later were boiled down to that core kernel.</blockquote>