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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9865757" data-attributes="member: 725">Not a publisher.See it as additional exposure, piracy mitigation, and additional revenue.The example mentioned: Shadowrun PDFs, I already own all the SR 1/2/3 edition books, i bought pdf bundles for these, but for SR 4/5/6, I wouldn't be buying these at MSRP at all, as I have very little interest in this era of SR world. So I see this as additional revenue for the publisher they wouldn't normally have. It also worked as additional exposure, sudden interest in SR, which resulted in a sale of the original Anarchy 1.0 and probably Anarchy 2.0 PDFs. There's also piracy, when you can buy 90 PDFs for €23,15, do you even bother looking for pirated copies when you have that money?With the WFRP4e bundles I moved from focusing on 2e to 4e, but eventually bought all the FVTT WFRP4e modules, something similar happened with the Dark Eye...Quinns from Shut Up and Sit Down did a wonderful review of Spire: The City Must Fall, I thought it very interesting, but didn't really see a realistic opportunity to ever play that. A short while later there was a Bundle of Holding for it and bought it, it's now in my 'bag of tricks' to play as a one-shot in the future, exposing more people to it. If successful, we might play it more, leading to some to buy the physical rulebook, and me buying the rest of the PDFs that weren't in the Bundle. That exposure also got me buying the Heart Bundle of Holding, which I never would have considered before.I do think it has very difficult to easily quantify benefits to the publishers, but some of those benefits might be years down the line.The danger with these kinds of bundles is the customer's perceived value of your IP and (pdf) RPGs in general. Something similar is happening with computer games where cheap bundles (and deep Steam sales) are devaluing computer games. I'm for example at the point that I buy virtually no computer games at full price anymore, with a library of almost 4,000 Steam games... I'm starting to get in a similar situation with Bundles of Holding (250+), each ranging from a few to dozens of books per bundle. That's not even including the Humble Bundles with RPG books. It might be even worse then piracy from a publisher's perspective, because with piracy the pirate always has that feeling of illegality around the activity (some are more comfortable with that then others), but with bundles everything is legal and people paid penuts for the product.I still sometimes buy (close) to full price PDFs, because I 'need' them at time X or because I still have a few holes in my 'bundle' collection... I spent a pretty penny on PF2e Core books, when half a year later they showed up in a Bundle I bought anyway due to the other content in it... I do tell myself that at the time I bought those books to evaluate PF2e as an alternative to D&D5e 2024. But it does sting a bit...</blockquote>

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