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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 4178446" data-attributes="member: 3586">There are big differences between the 3e hybrid and the 4e hybrid.In 3e, you had the druid:* Melee abilites that were on par with the fighter's, and could go as long (that is, indefinitely).* Spell abilities that were on par with the wizard's, and could go as long (that is, until they ran out of spells).Add them together and you had a class that could go twice as long at top speed (and often outclass everyone else).Then you had the 3e bard.* Melee abilities that were on par with... well, above the Wizard but worse than everyone elses.* Spell abilities that were on par with... below any casting class. Better than the paladin's, but that's not saying much.So the bard was *inferior* to any specialist class in combat. Occasionally, very occasionally, you'd get a monster the bard worked well against, but it was rare.In 4e, any hybrid class will have an entire suite of abilities that will be on par with everyone else's: their daily power will track with the power-level of other classes' daily powers, and they'll have the same number of powers as everyone else.What they won't have is the same number of specialist powers as a dedicated specialist. Instead of having two daily powers that are "Striker", they may have one daily power that is "Striker" and another that is "Defender".Of course, I expect that you could specialise in Defender powers if you really wanted to...However, the existence of At Will and Encounter powers mean that they can fulfill the lesser part of their role consistently... and at a level only slightly less than a true specialist could.So, I don't see hybrid classes being the same nightmares as in 3e. I do think a hybrid Controller/Defender as being problematic (HP/Armour), but the power level of a hybrid won't be such a problem. Instead, it's merely how long they can fulfill the requirements of their role.Cheers!</blockquote>

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