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<blockquote data-quote="Bill Muench" data-source="post: 1591932" data-attributes="member: 121"><p>As dcollins says, just because <em>your</em> party doesn't have a problem with it doesn't mean that it isn't overpowered for its CR. Just about any party can take town a creature whose CR = their level. Afterall, any one of those PCs is an equal CR encounter for the monster, so it is just about even. Add in 3 more PCs and it won't be a big deal. And a CR 4 monster for a party of 4th level characters shouldn't be. But against 3rd level or 2nd level characters, the CR 4 Hydra will wipe them out thanks to 2 things: huge number of attacks and its fast healing 15.</p><p></p><p>If your main melee brute can take down the hydra without breaking a sweat, I've got to think 2 things simply based on my own personal experience: he isn't a 25-point character, and he probably has more than 5400 gp in gear.</p><p></p><p>Personally, if your brute charged my hydra I'd attempt to trip him with my AoO. If he then goes to stand up, I'd take all my AoOs (going by the 2 AoO's per round, each of which is comprised of 5 attacks theory). I'd still be out of his reach unless he has a reach weapon. I'd then full attack him and move away, forcing him to come to me again and repeating my tactic.</p><p></p><p>(And to head off the comments, I know they only have an Int of 2. But so do wolves and other creatures who move in and attack and then move out again and use rudimentary tactics.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bill Muench, post: 1591932, member: 121"] As dcollins says, just because [I]your[/I] party doesn't have a problem with it doesn't mean that it isn't overpowered for its CR. Just about any party can take town a creature whose CR = their level. Afterall, any one of those PCs is an equal CR encounter for the monster, so it is just about even. Add in 3 more PCs and it won't be a big deal. And a CR 4 monster for a party of 4th level characters shouldn't be. But against 3rd level or 2nd level characters, the CR 4 Hydra will wipe them out thanks to 2 things: huge number of attacks and its fast healing 15. If your main melee brute can take down the hydra without breaking a sweat, I've got to think 2 things simply based on my own personal experience: he isn't a 25-point character, and he probably has more than 5400 gp in gear. Personally, if your brute charged my hydra I'd attempt to trip him with my AoO. If he then goes to stand up, I'd take all my AoOs (going by the 2 AoO's per round, each of which is comprised of 5 attacks theory). I'd still be out of his reach unless he has a reach weapon. I'd then full attack him and move away, forcing him to come to me again and repeating my tactic. (And to head off the comments, I know they only have an Int of 2. But so do wolves and other creatures who move in and attack and then move out again and use rudimentary tactics.) [/QUOTE]
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