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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TimSmith" data-source="post: 2839639" data-attributes="member: 10322">With the GREATEST respect, Sir Humphrey  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ("Yes Prime Minister" reference meant in good humour, just to clarify)Just to nitpick (but support your argument even more), the hydra DOES get a full attack on the first round if it can reach them at all, as "it can attack with all heads without penalty even if it moves or charges" according to the first line of its combat description in the MM.Although I appreciate your combat breakdown, I still think you are assuming the party don't use more appropriate tactics. For example, you assume the fighter provokes when he moves in, which is not necessary. Also, you are ignoring the sunder heads option. And when you mention that the fighter will go down if he's not healed, well that's an essential requirement in many combats against heavy hitting opponents. Perhaps the party could rotate combatants out of the front line to heal or something. These actual combats by (on average) 6th level party vs CR8 cryohydra show that most parties didn't find it as difficult as one might think on paper.</blockquote>