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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3698523" data-attributes="member: 1465">I think they are quite balanced with each other for the average game.I actually think that in our games, where out-of-combat activity is quite important (but no HR is used to give more skills), the +2 skill points is more worth, since it can open up the equivalent of 2 new abilities in your array. I think of these in terms of for instance:- Tumble, or being able to move freely around enemies- Diplomacy, or being able to strongly influence the direction of the story- Climb, or being able to bypass obstacles based on heights- Use Magic Device, or being able to use scrolls, wands and other items- Listen, or being able to avoid ambush and surprise rounds against youFurthermore this means +100% skill points...edit: Reading the OP better, I think instead the winner might be the hit point bonus, it is equal to almost +40%! For some reason, I thought I read "HD d12", in which case I think it would be more balanced.</blockquote>