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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9841876" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>That's because [USER=90374]@payn[/USER] is a peculiar person, but that has mostly to do with their obsession with House Marik... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Different people can have different opinions, the problems start when <em>some</em> people start phrasing their <em>opinions</em> as facts... And opinions can change with age. My views are certainly not the same as they were 35 years ago...</p><p></p><p>Technically, whatever the D&D IP owner slaps the D&D brand on is D&D. Be that a game, be that Lego, be that socks... It's technically D&D, it's also technically not D&D whatever thought experiment a fan thinks up, like this thread... The point is, what do we think? When we look at the direction D&D4e went, WotC backpedaled HEAVILY on their design, so much so that 10 years later they didn't even dare to call their new edition 6e, just 5e 2024...</p><p></p><p>5e still has saves, they now just work a little differently from say 2e (but still a bit based on level progression and class). And core 2e had proficiency, like 5e has now. And D&D Basic had no skill points at all... Other things that people might have considered D&D holy cows might have been THAC0 and we did away with that 25+ years ago... But there are still people that don't play 3e/4e/5e, but still play 1e/2e or even Basic D&D...</p><p></p><p>Sidenote: Our group <s>ditched</s> didn't play D&D4e for example, we didn't play any pnp RPG during that era, as a matter of fact... We picked up 5e a few sessions early on, life got in the way again and we picked it up again a couple of years ago. With Foundry VTT helping out with the life issues... We did play a lot of board games in the meantime... Things like Doom, Descent, Gloomhaven, etc. I suspect that if currently a new edition of D&D shows up that we collectively don't like, we'll probably play something else or stay with the current edition we do like. I was already working on getting into Pathfinder 2e (Remastered) just before D&D 5e 2024 was published, it took a bit but eventually we all like it more then the previous version...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9841876, member: 725"] That's because [USER=90374]@payn[/USER] is a peculiar person, but that has mostly to do with their obsession with House Marik... ;) Different people can have different opinions, the problems start when [I]some[/I] people start phrasing their [I]opinions[/I] as facts... And opinions can change with age. My views are certainly not the same as they were 35 years ago... Technically, whatever the D&D IP owner slaps the D&D brand on is D&D. Be that a game, be that Lego, be that socks... It's technically D&D, it's also technically not D&D whatever thought experiment a fan thinks up, like this thread... The point is, what do we think? When we look at the direction D&D4e went, WotC backpedaled HEAVILY on their design, so much so that 10 years later they didn't even dare to call their new edition 6e, just 5e 2024... 5e still has saves, they now just work a little differently from say 2e (but still a bit based on level progression and class). And core 2e had proficiency, like 5e has now. And D&D Basic had no skill points at all... Other things that people might have considered D&D holy cows might have been THAC0 and we did away with that 25+ years ago... But there are still people that don't play 3e/4e/5e, but still play 1e/2e or even Basic D&D... Sidenote: Our group [S]ditched[/S] didn't play D&D4e for example, we didn't play any pnp RPG during that era, as a matter of fact... We picked up 5e a few sessions early on, life got in the way again and we picked it up again a couple of years ago. With Foundry VTT helping out with the life issues... We did play a lot of board games in the meantime... Things like Doom, Descent, Gloomhaven, etc. I suspect that if currently a new edition of D&D shows up that we collectively don't like, we'll probably play something else or stay with the current edition we do like. I was already working on getting into Pathfinder 2e (Remastered) just before D&D 5e 2024 was published, it took a bit but eventually we all like it more then the previous version... [/QUOTE]
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