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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8897054" data-attributes="member: 18">Uh-huh, but you need a reason and permission to appeal, at least in virtually all jurisdictions (maybe there are exceptions?), you can't just automagically appeal, and your appeal is often granted on a fairly narrow point, not all the points you were making, so it's just plain wrong to say that "in effect starts the whole process over", especially as discovery is already likely effectively done. An appeal isn't a reset button in civil cases, dude.Yup, but my understanding, and lawyers correct me, is that that's relatively rare, particularly if the person getting sued had some kind of reasonable case, even if they lost. I can't speak for the US, either, but in England & Wales we also have orders that limit the costs that can be claimed from the losing party if they're a lot smaller, specifically to prevent unfair situations (IIRC there are, stupidly, places these don't seem to apply, including libel/defamation, which makes England & Wales an ideal jurisdiction if you want to do some SLAPPs - the government keeps threatening to do something about it, then remembering their donors and friends are among the major people engaging in SLAPP-type behaviour - hell at least a couple of Tory MPs and several Tory Lords have done it! One of them I can't even name because I know his legal team trawls the internet looking for any mention of it and trying to SLAPP people down).</blockquote>

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