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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6213790" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>I'm not sure that it succeeded at doing the first but it did almost succeed at doing the second. But admittedly that was my fault as well. That's what I get for being almost unerringly loyal to a brand as opposed to the game. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which was, IMHO, a great, GREAT thing. Especially for a system like 3x where I used reliable 3rd party materials to kitbash rules and subsystems to get a game to exactly where I needed it to be. As opposed to building it all myself from scratch. All of the various settings like Scarred Lands and Bluffside were a boon. Things like Green Ronin's BOOK OF THE RIGHTEOUS were a big help. Granted it may have taken a little while to figure out the more reliable 3rd party companies (ENWORLD was a big help for this...) but once that happened the level of support, quality and variety was fantastic. But if you and the OGL opponents had/have your way the only place I would be able to get this material from would be WOTC. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I agree with the 1st thing that you said but the second thing? Well that's alien to me. Accept or play an edition that I dont like because why again? Everyone else is doing it? Isnt this supposed to be fun? Since when is playing a game that you dont like or care for fun. And please lets not go to the whole "youre doing it with freinds thing" because there are probably a bunch of other things you can be doing with your freinds that dont involve you playing a game that you dont like for a few hours.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again this is alien to me. Spending years playing an edition that you hate sounds, quite frankly, ridiculous to me. I played 2nd edition and while it had some issues I didn't hate it. It was close enough to 1E where I could still use most of my older material to run the games that I liked. It was only until after Skills and Powers came out that I abandoned the system and really didn't look back for a long time. I really disliked Skills and Powers. So I stopped playing and running games. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Wow. EDIT: I needed to clarify here. I only say "WOW" because this is very similar to what I did with my group. Except I saw it as intergrating/intermixing 1E into 2E. Not vices versa. Not that it makes a huge difference either way... </p><p></p><p> This sounds like Helsinke Syndrome to me. Also I despise Organize Play, but I see now why you may have stuck with a system that you didnt care for. Still I'd just as soon as not play than play a game that I dont like or hate or despise.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But didnt you dislike and hate those systems? I'm confused here. Because you learned to like them through sheer sutbborness to support the brand? Again, not my cup of tea here. If I'm spending my money on a hobby I at least want it to be something that I like and am having fun doing. I dont want to suffer through it just for the sake of brand loyalty. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Youre right I really dont understand you. You say that there is no wrong way to game. But you're basically for limiting what other people want to play by eliminating or limiting the OGL. You want people to basically either play the latest version of D&D or something completely different. Because if people are allowed to stay playing whatever version that they like that takes away from WOTC and the brand and that's bad? How is that bad for me as a consumer and gamer? Because I gotta tell you, I've been doing just fine spending my money elsewhere and playing what I want to play. Happily and not hating or despising it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 6213790, member: 9213"] I'm not sure that it succeeded at doing the first but it did almost succeed at doing the second. But admittedly that was my fault as well. That's what I get for being almost unerringly loyal to a brand as opposed to the game. Which was, IMHO, a great, GREAT thing. Especially for a system like 3x where I used reliable 3rd party materials to kitbash rules and subsystems to get a game to exactly where I needed it to be. As opposed to building it all myself from scratch. All of the various settings like Scarred Lands and Bluffside were a boon. Things like Green Ronin's BOOK OF THE RIGHTEOUS were a big help. Granted it may have taken a little while to figure out the more reliable 3rd party companies (ENWORLD was a big help for this...) but once that happened the level of support, quality and variety was fantastic. But if you and the OGL opponents had/have your way the only place I would be able to get this material from would be WOTC. I agree with the 1st thing that you said but the second thing? Well that's alien to me. Accept or play an edition that I dont like because why again? Everyone else is doing it? Isnt this supposed to be fun? Since when is playing a game that you dont like or care for fun. And please lets not go to the whole "youre doing it with freinds thing" because there are probably a bunch of other things you can be doing with your freinds that dont involve you playing a game that you dont like for a few hours. Again this is alien to me. Spending years playing an edition that you hate sounds, quite frankly, ridiculous to me. I played 2nd edition and while it had some issues I didn't hate it. It was close enough to 1E where I could still use most of my older material to run the games that I liked. It was only until after Skills and Powers came out that I abandoned the system and really didn't look back for a long time. I really disliked Skills and Powers. So I stopped playing and running games. Wow. EDIT: I needed to clarify here. I only say "WOW" because this is very similar to what I did with my group. Except I saw it as intergrating/intermixing 1E into 2E. Not vices versa. Not that it makes a huge difference either way... This sounds like Helsinke Syndrome to me. Also I despise Organize Play, but I see now why you may have stuck with a system that you didnt care for. Still I'd just as soon as not play than play a game that I dont like or hate or despise. But didnt you dislike and hate those systems? I'm confused here. Because you learned to like them through sheer sutbborness to support the brand? Again, not my cup of tea here. If I'm spending my money on a hobby I at least want it to be something that I like and am having fun doing. I dont want to suffer through it just for the sake of brand loyalty. Youre right I really dont understand you. You say that there is no wrong way to game. But you're basically for limiting what other people want to play by eliminating or limiting the OGL. You want people to basically either play the latest version of D&D or something completely different. Because if people are allowed to stay playing whatever version that they like that takes away from WOTC and the brand and that's bad? How is that bad for me as a consumer and gamer? Because I gotta tell you, I've been doing just fine spending my money elsewhere and playing what I want to play. Happily and not hating or despising it. [/QUOTE]
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