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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6214617" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>And now we're starting to see the not so typical tropes in the AP's which I dont think should be included in the talk about diminishing returns as they are not rule books but adventures. As long as there is an idea for adventures it's fresh product. For all that you might as well call movies and TV shows and Fiction books diminishing returns as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And what are they supposed to call this books? Player's Handbook II, Dungeon Masters Guide II? I think the obviousness in WOTC trying to streeeeeeetch things during the 3x era was pretty in our face. Did we really need a Complete Arcane AND Complete Mage? No. But Ultimate Magic is a pretty definitive book for Arcane spell casters as Ultimate Combat is the same for martial characters. I'd like to think that there is nothing beyond Ultimate other than II or a III at the end of the title. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that you said that about Ultimate Equipment Guide shows that youre not exactly sure what that product is. Is there new material in the book? Sure. I dont think people will by a book with nothing but older material in it . But for the most part it's filled with mundane stuff, magical stuff that was spread out over several other Pathfinder books that not everyone owns. Stuff from AP's, stuff from Modules, Player's Companions etc. All in one book. So now youre not trying to remember where that one odd magic item came from. Because it's in the Ultimate Equipment Guide. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not going to do that because this seems to be very WOTC specific (people polled are obviously 4E players and GM's) as it's from WOTC for WOTC materials. That coupled with the fact that you are a WOTC proponent wont allow me to look at whatever information that is there without bias. Sorry. </p><p></p><p></p><p> I understand completely and totally respect that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 6214617, member: 9213"] And now we're starting to see the not so typical tropes in the AP's which I dont think should be included in the talk about diminishing returns as they are not rule books but adventures. As long as there is an idea for adventures it's fresh product. For all that you might as well call movies and TV shows and Fiction books diminishing returns as well. And what are they supposed to call this books? Player's Handbook II, Dungeon Masters Guide II? I think the obviousness in WOTC trying to streeeeeeetch things during the 3x era was pretty in our face. Did we really need a Complete Arcane AND Complete Mage? No. But Ultimate Magic is a pretty definitive book for Arcane spell casters as Ultimate Combat is the same for martial characters. I'd like to think that there is nothing beyond Ultimate other than II or a III at the end of the title. The fact that you said that about Ultimate Equipment Guide shows that youre not exactly sure what that product is. Is there new material in the book? Sure. I dont think people will by a book with nothing but older material in it . But for the most part it's filled with mundane stuff, magical stuff that was spread out over several other Pathfinder books that not everyone owns. Stuff from AP's, stuff from Modules, Player's Companions etc. All in one book. So now youre not trying to remember where that one odd magic item came from. Because it's in the Ultimate Equipment Guide. I'm not going to do that because this seems to be very WOTC specific (people polled are obviously 4E players and GM's) as it's from WOTC for WOTC materials. That coupled with the fact that you are a WOTC proponent wont allow me to look at whatever information that is there without bias. Sorry. I understand completely and totally respect that. [/QUOTE]
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