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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9316274" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p><strong>On Con. </strong></p><p>I’ve played 8 con rogues. I have no problem starting 12 con on a front line martial. My solasta playthroughs often incorporate a 12 con Paladin. Str, Dex and Charisma are all more important to me there.</p><p></p><p>I understand 14-16 is more common, but I’d hate to lose the option of playing lower toughness characters. It makes for some really strong characterization.</p><p></p><p>That said I won’t typically play low con full casters. Concentrations is too important for them.</p><p></p><p><strong>On MAD.</strong></p><p>Its not so much MAD in a finely tuned system balanced around it that I take issue with, it’s suggesting that 5e can be that. And then the long line of IMO terrible suggestion for trying to make it so.</p><p></p><p>The issue right now is people get too much tunnel vision already. I could easily argue a fighter with str/dex/wis is a better combat fighter than the str/con all in fighter. Better ranged combat options and initiative, less surprise rounds and better starting combat positions (higher perception) and less effected by devastating will save conditions. </p><p></p><p>If there’s any area where mad doesn’t work well already it’s for most full casters. Dex/con/casting stat are all too important to them and for the most part if you want a different mental stat you just pick a different full caster (and it’s not like str does anything noticeable) - so there less of a reason to make a unique caster stats. There’s no simple fix to solve this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9316274, member: 6795602"] [B]On Con. [/B] I’ve played 8 con rogues. I have no problem starting 12 con on a front line martial. My solasta playthroughs often incorporate a 12 con Paladin. Str, Dex and Charisma are all more important to me there. I understand 14-16 is more common, but I’d hate to lose the option of playing lower toughness characters. It makes for some really strong characterization. That said I won’t typically play low con full casters. Concentrations is too important for them. [B]On MAD.[/B] Its not so much MAD in a finely tuned system balanced around it that I take issue with, it’s suggesting that 5e can be that. And then the long line of IMO terrible suggestion for trying to make it so. The issue right now is people get too much tunnel vision already. I could easily argue a fighter with str/dex/wis is a better combat fighter than the str/con all in fighter. Better ranged combat options and initiative, less surprise rounds and better starting combat positions (higher perception) and less effected by devastating will save conditions. If there’s any area where mad doesn’t work well already it’s for most full casters. Dex/con/casting stat are all too important to them and for the most part if you want a different mental stat you just pick a different full caster (and it’s not like str does anything noticeable) - so there less of a reason to make a unique caster stats. There’s no simple fix to solve this. [/QUOTE]
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