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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4815308" data-attributes="member: 80487">Pbartender, my concern was with recognizing S.L.'s own characterization of the issues at hand. A language barrier is not conducive to the understanding predicate to being of real help. The shift in perspective from "how would scene play out in a novel?" to "how would this scene play out in a movie?" is pretty trivial next to the shift involved in going from the old concept of an RPG to 4E. That may end up modified in a rapprochement with 4E, but ignorance of the starting position is hardly helpful. The difference between the phenomena being denoted in the different usages is not trivial.I was asked for the basis of my claim that the terminology in a particular case had departed from former usage, and my first answer was too vague. Therefore, I followed up with a more detailed explanation and a reminder of the relevance to the original subject of the thread -- which has (in keeping with the nature of such things, so no dismay!) wandered a bit from that focus.I think it would be counter-productive to edit your post, as it provides context for a tangential discussion that may have contributed some disambiguation.</blockquote>