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<blockquote data-quote="Denalz" data-source="post: 7292454" data-attributes="member: 6878412"><p>Haha! This is too true <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I really like the general idea of the heirs needing to be "corrupted" in some way in order for them to be of use to Morvek. That train of though got me to thinking... maybe they are only of use to Morvek if the have not been "corrupted". Perhaps there could be some condition that would "corrupt" the heirs and make them unusable to Morvek. This is appealing because it would give my PC's an extra possible solution to keep Morvek imprisoned. What sort of action/condition might render a person an "unsuitable" sacrifice for a blood ritual? Any ideas?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Originally I planned for my PC's to gain much of the backstory from a mage at the Arcane Order (located in the city they are currently traveling to). I liked this ideas because they would have to work for the information first since mages in the Order have no reason to want to help my PC's right now. That being said, I really like the idea of a surviving Armaranthine or maybe a cult devoted to the Armaranthine being responsible for revealing the information. I have been throwing around the idea of introducing a surviving Armaranthine NPC, but I hadn't decided what role I wanted that character to potentially fulfill. An antagonistic role seems most obvious as I feel most of the Armaranthine would sympathize with Morvek's vengeful motivations.... but, I can also see a potential Armaranthine character condemning Morvek for his reign of terror. I originally envisioned the Armaranthine as a docile and pragmatic race, so it might make sense that one would judge Morvek harshly despite his obvious justifications.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is an interesting concept. I guess I wonder if Morvek would be able to see through the ruse. I guess that depends on how I'll decide he is hunting downt the heirs in the first place, and if it will be the same method my PC's use. Any ideas on that?</p><p></p><p>If not an intentional decoy, it may be a good idea to a have a secret 6th member of the Quora Tal. But that makes even less sense as far as Morvek being ignorant on the matter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a really interesting concept. I like it, but I'm confused on one point. Why would Morvek being defeated cause a patron god to ascend to ultimate power? What is the connection? And just to clarify, this Patron god who is playing both sides, is he an original god, or is he one of the people who ascended to godhood after sacrificing himself to imprison Morvek? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it then becomes impossible for Morvek to free himself. Which is why my players would have the choice to kill off all the heirs as a potential solution to the Morvek problem. Not very paragon though. I need to think up some alternative solutions that offer the same amount of security/finality. Any ideas?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a great idea. Although I sort of used it with the very first heir that my party found that alerted them to this whole thing. In my game's case, they found a father with two sons. Morvek's agent had been trying to capture the adult son for years but after she collected some of his blood she suddenly quit trying to capture him and instead set her sights on the younger brother. My players asked themselves why the elder son's blood didn't work and they weren't quite sure. They will soon learn that the blood needs to be of the first born and the adult son was actually the product of his mother's secret adultery.</p><p></p><p>Do you think using your idea is too similar to what I have already done? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like this idea, but I guess my question is: why didn't the original ritual do it's job and kill him once and for all? And why would Morvek now be trying to hunt down the heirs? I suppose he might hunt them down to kill them so that they can't complete the ritual.... but why is he still alive to hunt them down in the first place?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My prince character does have a younger sister that I have not introduced yet. I hadn't fully decided on what to do with her yet but I was thinking that she would be well loved by her father as she is the only child the king has that he actually has any intentions of investing in. I suppose she might feel motivated to have her father turn on her brother as she could potentially become the next heir to the throne. To that end, maybe it would work better if she were a younger brother instead. I guess I just find myself wondering how a second born son could gain enough influence to effectively "convince" his father to betray his first born.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Denalz, post: 7292454, member: 6878412"] Haha! This is too true :D I really like the general idea of the heirs needing to be "corrupted" in some way in order for them to be of use to Morvek. That train of though got me to thinking... maybe they are only of use to Morvek if the have not been "corrupted". Perhaps there could be some condition that would "corrupt" the heirs and make them unusable to Morvek. This is appealing because it would give my PC's an extra possible solution to keep Morvek imprisoned. What sort of action/condition might render a person an "unsuitable" sacrifice for a blood ritual? Any ideas? Originally I planned for my PC's to gain much of the backstory from a mage at the Arcane Order (located in the city they are currently traveling to). I liked this ideas because they would have to work for the information first since mages in the Order have no reason to want to help my PC's right now. That being said, I really like the idea of a surviving Armaranthine or maybe a cult devoted to the Armaranthine being responsible for revealing the information. I have been throwing around the idea of introducing a surviving Armaranthine NPC, but I hadn't decided what role I wanted that character to potentially fulfill. An antagonistic role seems most obvious as I feel most of the Armaranthine would sympathize with Morvek's vengeful motivations.... but, I can also see a potential Armaranthine character condemning Morvek for his reign of terror. I originally envisioned the Armaranthine as a docile and pragmatic race, so it might make sense that one would judge Morvek harshly despite his obvious justifications. This is an interesting concept. I guess I wonder if Morvek would be able to see through the ruse. I guess that depends on how I'll decide he is hunting downt the heirs in the first place, and if it will be the same method my PC's use. Any ideas on that? If not an intentional decoy, it may be a good idea to a have a secret 6th member of the Quora Tal. But that makes even less sense as far as Morvek being ignorant on the matter. This is a really interesting concept. I like it, but I'm confused on one point. Why would Morvek being defeated cause a patron god to ascend to ultimate power? What is the connection? And just to clarify, this Patron god who is playing both sides, is he an original god, or is he one of the people who ascended to godhood after sacrificing himself to imprison Morvek? Yes, it then becomes impossible for Morvek to free himself. Which is why my players would have the choice to kill off all the heirs as a potential solution to the Morvek problem. Not very paragon though. I need to think up some alternative solutions that offer the same amount of security/finality. Any ideas? This is a great idea. Although I sort of used it with the very first heir that my party found that alerted them to this whole thing. In my game's case, they found a father with two sons. Morvek's agent had been trying to capture the adult son for years but after she collected some of his blood she suddenly quit trying to capture him and instead set her sights on the younger brother. My players asked themselves why the elder son's blood didn't work and they weren't quite sure. They will soon learn that the blood needs to be of the first born and the adult son was actually the product of his mother's secret adultery. Do you think using your idea is too similar to what I have already done? I like this idea, but I guess my question is: why didn't the original ritual do it's job and kill him once and for all? And why would Morvek now be trying to hunt down the heirs? I suppose he might hunt them down to kill them so that they can't complete the ritual.... but why is he still alive to hunt them down in the first place? My prince character does have a younger sister that I have not introduced yet. I hadn't fully decided on what to do with her yet but I was thinking that she would be well loved by her father as she is the only child the king has that he actually has any intentions of investing in. I suppose she might feel motivated to have her father turn on her brother as she could potentially become the next heir to the throne. To that end, maybe it would work better if she were a younger brother instead. I guess I just find myself wondering how a second born son could gain enough influence to effectively "convince" his father to betray his first born. [/QUOTE]
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