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<blockquote data-quote="der_kluge" data-source="post: 663201" data-attributes="member: 945">Default Name Player - show me in my comments where I'm trying to elevate the U.S. morally above other countries because of the prevalance or lack-thereof of pornography.&nbsp; Show me.And for the record, the argument that the U.S. spends billions on porn is specious, we also spend billions on books, and by your argument, we should be the smartest people in the world.&nbsp; We're bigger than most other countries, and also the richest.&nbsp; So, of course we spend more money on just about everything else.&nbsp; That doesn't make it better, or worse - it just means we're bigger.The U.S doesn't have any primetime nudity on any TV station.&nbsp; HBO, Cinemax, are all subscriber-based channels, and all of the other ones you mentioned, Spice, etc, are adult-oriented subscriber based chanels as well.&nbsp; They are not free, and are not public.&nbsp; I've never seen them firsthand, but have seen references, and seen clips of (on HBO, among other places) of shows that air - in primetime, featuring nudity, and other sexually explicit scenes and images in European countries and Japan.&nbsp; &nbsp; And frankly, that's great.&nbsp; More power to them.&nbsp; All my point is, is that because those countries have a more relaxed attitude towards that kind of thing, could, in my belief, have an affect on said person's attitude towards provocative and risque images on the cover of a d20 magazine.&nbsp; And if you guys really want to debate me on this topic, feel free.&nbsp; But get your own facts right, and for god's sake, take a logic class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="der_kluge, post: 663201, member: 945"] Default Name Player - show me in my comments where I'm trying to elevate the U.S. morally above other countries because of the prevalance or lack-thereof of pornography. Show me. And for the record, the argument that the U.S. spends billions on porn is specious, we also spend billions on books, and by your argument, we should be the smartest people in the world. We're bigger than most other countries, and also the richest. So, of course we spend more money on just about everything else. That doesn't make it better, or worse - it just means we're bigger. The U.S doesn't have any primetime nudity on any TV station. HBO, Cinemax, are all subscriber-based channels, and all of the other ones you mentioned, Spice, etc, are adult-oriented subscriber based chanels as well. They are not free, and are not public. I've never seen them firsthand, but have seen references, and seen clips of (on HBO, among other places) of shows that air - in primetime, featuring nudity, and other sexually explicit scenes and images in European countries and Japan. And frankly, that's great. More power to them. All my point is, is that because those countries have a more relaxed attitude towards that kind of thing, could, in my belief, have an affect on said person's attitude towards provocative and risque images on the cover of a d20 magazine. And if you guys really want to debate me on this topic, feel free. But get your own facts right, and for god's sake, take a logic class. [/QUOTE]

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