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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 5426072" data-attributes="member: 72317">Admitably, one thing I liked about 4e npcs is that they just give them whatever abilities the designers deem fit. However, 3e noticeably lacked guidelines for modifying existing monsters on the fly.In 3e, if I wanted to say, make a frost giant wizard, I would have to tack on wizard lvs like crazy. A frost giant wiz15 is cr17. Powerful yes, but if I wanted a cr11-12 caster, I am out of luck, because a frost giant with 6 lvs of sorc gets only 3rd lv spell, which won't be too useful against a 12th lv party.But in 4e, what you had would be the equivalent of just taking a MM frost giant, and giving him a few SLA/spells of the appropriate lv. I could take a frost giant, and give him ice storm, wall of ice and freezing sphere 1/day and it wouldn't increase his cr too much. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>