Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
I am forseeing problems with feats
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 4001044" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>as pointed out: more than trash after Level 1 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>toughness gave you more hp than power attack gave you on damage... 3 hp compared to 0 and dodge gave you the same advantage as expertise without giving you -1 to attack...</p><p></p><p>and expertise was a great feat. </p><p></p><p>The improvement in 4e is that everything scales linear with level, BAB and Defense. So a +1 attack bonus stays usefull in 10th level as it is on first.</p><p></p><p>Example: </p><p>Attack bonus of +3 (16 str) vs AC 19 chainmail and large shield. Your chances to hit are 5/20, with weapon focus you have 6/20 so your chances to hit are improved by 20%!</p><p></p><p>if you have an AB of +1 and attack vs fullplate and shield, (AC 21) you only hit at 20, with WF, you hit with 19 and 20 thats twice as often.</p><p></p><p>in 3.x the problem is: at Level 10, your AB is 11 and the AC is still 21, so you hit with 10+ or 11/20. With WF you hit with 12/20 which is just a minor improvement of 9% more hits.</p><p></p><p>In 4e AB is 6 and AC is 26 at LVL 10, so your WF still gives 20% more damage. (not considering crits)</p><p></p><p>and dodge may reduce your damage taken in the same way, even if it still only gives a bonus of +1 to AC (but hopefully vs all enemies)</p><p></p><p>combat casting however was trash in 3.5 since skillfocus concentration did the job nearly as well and was more versatile... only a mage with too much feats and not enough skillpoints could have invested in both...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 4001044, member: 59057"] as pointed out: more than trash after Level 1 ;) toughness gave you more hp than power attack gave you on damage... 3 hp compared to 0 and dodge gave you the same advantage as expertise without giving you -1 to attack... and expertise was a great feat. The improvement in 4e is that everything scales linear with level, BAB and Defense. So a +1 attack bonus stays usefull in 10th level as it is on first. Example: Attack bonus of +3 (16 str) vs AC 19 chainmail and large shield. Your chances to hit are 5/20, with weapon focus you have 6/20 so your chances to hit are improved by 20%! if you have an AB of +1 and attack vs fullplate and shield, (AC 21) you only hit at 20, with WF, you hit with 19 and 20 thats twice as often. in 3.x the problem is: at Level 10, your AB is 11 and the AC is still 21, so you hit with 10+ or 11/20. With WF you hit with 12/20 which is just a minor improvement of 9% more hits. In 4e AB is 6 and AC is 26 at LVL 10, so your WF still gives 20% more damage. (not considering crits) and dodge may reduce your damage taken in the same way, even if it still only gives a bonus of +1 to AC (but hopefully vs all enemies) combat casting however was trash in 3.5 since skillfocus concentration did the job nearly as well and was more versatile... only a mage with too much feats and not enough skillpoints could have invested in both... [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
I am forseeing problems with feats
Top