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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2036960" data-attributes="member: 5890">Did you not know about the party until you got to the house? If you did know, I'd assume that the &quot;discussing a plan&quot; bit took place somewhere other than outside the target. This is the sort of stuff that the DM should really just gift to you unless he wants his game to devolve into a ridiculous comedy. And from what you said, I assumed that you'd gone to the inn because it was conveniently across the road, and you could watch the party from there. Ie - you were on a stakeout.A bunch of people in a tavern drinking will probably be overlooked unless your target is particularly wary. A bunch of people having an armed combat in a tavern will not. So sending random goons to beat you up ruins the stakeout.I've read too many recounts of &quot;how stupid my players are&quot; to actually believe for a minute that even half of them are caused by stupid players rather than the DM supplying insufficient information and making flawed assumptions about what the PC's do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 2036960, member: 5890"] Did you not know about the party until you got to the house? If you did know, I'd assume that the "discussing a plan" bit took place somewhere other than outside the target. This is the sort of stuff that the DM should really just gift to you unless he wants his game to devolve into a ridiculous comedy. And from what you said, I assumed that you'd gone to the inn because it was conveniently across the road, and you could watch the party from there. Ie - you were on a stakeout. A bunch of people in a tavern drinking will probably be overlooked unless your target is particularly wary. A bunch of people having an armed combat in a tavern will not. So sending random goons to beat you up ruins the stakeout. I've read too many recounts of "how stupid my players are" to actually believe for a minute that even half of them are caused by stupid players rather than the DM supplying insufficient information and making flawed assumptions about what the PC's do. [/QUOTE]

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