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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darius101" data-source="post: 853366" data-attributes="member: 9466">Interesting LG,  that the state of Ninjutsu today has changed so much. I was unaware that many of the Ninpo practioners were so swayed to one side nowadays. What a disappointment for me. Hatsumi always taught us that Ninpo was the art of survival and that all arts had something to teach us. No art is above any other art and that is probably one reason Hatsumi san has such a great backround in so many arts (over 20 or 30 I believe). There is even diversity in the Togakure Ryu that varies widly from school to school. Morris states this in his second book, I did not like the way he stated it though. When looking for a school I again say look at what they teach and how they teach it rather than going on a reputation. Having been in the Bujinkan for 20+yrs I do not agree with what you were saying about many things in releation to the art of ninpo. I do however respect your right to have an individual opinion based on your experience. Genbukan is also another interesting school for learning Ninpo. This school was started by Shoto Tanemura who is a cousin of Hatsumi. It is a harder style and just as relevent to the art as Bujinkan. Bujinkan has become too comercial in recent years in my opinion and that has watered the art down to a large extent. At least from the articles and experience with the current crop of 5th degree black belts coming up in the ranks. This may have more to do with the teachers than the individuals I have worked with though. There are two individuals I know of that when you look at their techniques you would say to yourself why are they 5th degree or above?  They must have bought their belts rather than earned it.  Someone who earns their belt has a certain pride in the acomplishment that these individuals seem to lack. We always sparred from the begining. We never did competition. We have always had an open door policy with respect being very important. Anyone at anytime could come in for a try out,for FREE. Anyone at anytime could challenge our Sensei. We only had one person ever come in to interupt class to challenge Sensei and this individual showed very little respect. The individual tried to sucker punch our teacher when our teacher said not right now and then this man was swiftly knocked unconcious with a light touch knockout. The class stopped to see what was going on and Sensei asked us to continue class while he woke the man up. He then asked the individual to leave the school as what he was looking for could not be found with us. Nothing else was ever said about it in class or out of class. We never saw the person again. I miss my teacher as he has gone back to Japan and retied from formal teaching. I also miss my Chinese instructor for Wing Chun as he also has retired from teaching but I am thankful that they gave me a well rounded education in the Martial Ways. They were like all of the Masters that I have met in that they were humble about themselves and their arts.  They did not put on airs or say my art is better than your art. I will always be leery of an individual or a school that does have this persona. There are great people out there teaching and I would like to think there are great people out there learning the way as a path rather than a highway. "I would rather be caught on a trail in the woods than be stuck in the middle of the highway with a flat tire." You must always walk before you get to the proverbial 'good stuff'. In my opinion it is all good stuff that can get muddled and bogged down in BS.  Later, Darius  <a href="http://www.koryu.com/" target="_blank">Koryu Link  ---Click Here---</a> <a href="http://www.koryubooks.com/koryu.html" target="_blank">The Koryu Primer  ---Click Here ---</a> Lgodamus this last one is for you: <a href="http://koryu.com/library/ninjutsu.html" target="_blank">Ninjutsu and why it is not currently considered a Koryu ---Click Here---</a> What exactly is Togakure Ryu style Ninjutsu?  <a href="http://www.questia.com/SearchNoAuthMediator.qst?action=1" target="_blank">Largest online library of Martial Arts Releated Material  ----Click Here----</a></blockquote>

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