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<blockquote data-quote="Grendel_Khan" data-source="post: 8629751" data-attributes="member: 7028554"><p>Getting the impression that a lot of the KS naysayers in this thread aren't backing stuff like Zinequest or Zine Month projects--games and game aids that literally couldn't be published or distributed without crowdfunding. Not scolding anyone for not backing those, but KS has really helped get some incredibly cool and creative stuff made.</p><p></p><p>Also, I think a lot of 5e KS projects are kind of a unique category. That's where you tend to see some of the more ludicrous stretch goals--the minis, the dice bags, the endless doodads. If you're looking for a KS TTRPG cash grab, chances are it's going to be related to 5e. Stretch goal bloat can and does happen elsewhere, but at this point if you're backing a Free League or Pinnacle or Monte Cook or Steve Jackson (or similar) project, you can be assured that it isn't going to implode under its own weight.</p><p></p><p>Of the 27 TTRPG-related projects I've backed, the only one that is or was massively behind schedule is Stonetop, a game whose lead writer had a heart attack. And even there, they offered a full refund for those who don't wait to wait for the final product. But the in-progress digital files for Stonetop are 100 percent playable, their Discord is great and active, and tons of people have already run it (and I've used some of the materials for a different campaign). And that's a game that, if not for KS, either wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't have had anywhere near the reach and impact it's had, before even seeing a full release.</p><p></p><p>ETA: Forgot to mention that some of us don't have a local game store, so for a lot of new games the choice is either back on KS, or eventually order on Amazon. That's going to be an easy call for me every time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grendel_Khan, post: 8629751, member: 7028554"] Getting the impression that a lot of the KS naysayers in this thread aren't backing stuff like Zinequest or Zine Month projects--games and game aids that literally couldn't be published or distributed without crowdfunding. Not scolding anyone for not backing those, but KS has really helped get some incredibly cool and creative stuff made. Also, I think a lot of 5e KS projects are kind of a unique category. That's where you tend to see some of the more ludicrous stretch goals--the minis, the dice bags, the endless doodads. If you're looking for a KS TTRPG cash grab, chances are it's going to be related to 5e. Stretch goal bloat can and does happen elsewhere, but at this point if you're backing a Free League or Pinnacle or Monte Cook or Steve Jackson (or similar) project, you can be assured that it isn't going to implode under its own weight. Of the 27 TTRPG-related projects I've backed, the only one that is or was massively behind schedule is Stonetop, a game whose lead writer had a heart attack. And even there, they offered a full refund for those who don't wait to wait for the final product. But the in-progress digital files for Stonetop are 100 percent playable, their Discord is great and active, and tons of people have already run it (and I've used some of the materials for a different campaign). And that's a game that, if not for KS, either wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't have had anywhere near the reach and impact it's had, before even seeing a full release. ETA: Forgot to mention that some of us don't have a local game store, so for a lot of new games the choice is either back on KS, or eventually order on Amazon. That's going to be an easy call for me every time. [/QUOTE]
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