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"I am the one who casts!" (Ring of Spell Storing)
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<blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 7178034" data-attributes="member: 6796661"><p>I didn't call anyone stupid. </p><p></p><p>But based on English and logic, how can the item's description be honestly interpreted as not involving two casters? </p><p></p><p>I posit that arguing otherwise indicates that you have not thought about it carefully or misread it. Bad logic or poor comprehension. </p><p></p><p>A: "1+1=2"</p><p>B: "No, it is still 1."</p><p>A: "That is not logical. Or perhaps you didn't understand what I'm saying."</p><p>B: "Don't call me stupid! Your opinion ceases to matter to me!"</p><p></p><p>Would it have mattered if I worded the phrase to say "despite the logical and plain English interpretation of the rules as written, your DM may still read them differently, or simply decide that he wants things to work differently in his campaign"? I feel that no matter how I word it, I'm going to offend some people because I don't think the meaning of words and the logical interpretation of language is purely a matter of opinion. Whether you feel those rules are "good" (well-written, enjoyable, sensible, etc.) is. And I don't begrudge you for playing the game in the way you enjoy. </p><p></p><p>Whether my opinion matters to you is not particularly important to me, but I have enjoyed the discussion and parsing out the description and thinking about how it could matter in a game. Exercises like these get the mind working and help me come up with ideas for my game. After a discussion like this, I can think of lots of ways to make use of a Ring of Spell Storing more interesting. </p><p></p><p>It is too bad that you were so turned off by that one line that you refuse to take part in the conversation. I am interested what makes you feel that the rest of my post was "meaningless jibber jabber." Despite your misuse of the word "jibber jabber", you obviously feel my points have no merit. Or you just don't find the discussion interesting or useful to you (in which case, why bother posting?) Or is it that you may have found the post worth discussing but that one turn of phrase was so offensive to you that you no longer find the rest of the post worthwhile? </p><p></p><p>For what its worth, I generally find your posts interesting—even those where the rules of logic and English prove your to be objectively wrong. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNblockhead, post: 7178034, member: 6796661"] I didn't call anyone stupid. But based on English and logic, how can the item's description be honestly interpreted as not involving two casters? I posit that arguing otherwise indicates that you have not thought about it carefully or misread it. Bad logic or poor comprehension. A: "1+1=2" B: "No, it is still 1." A: "That is not logical. Or perhaps you didn't understand what I'm saying." B: "Don't call me stupid! Your opinion ceases to matter to me!" Would it have mattered if I worded the phrase to say "despite the logical and plain English interpretation of the rules as written, your DM may still read them differently, or simply decide that he wants things to work differently in his campaign"? I feel that no matter how I word it, I'm going to offend some people because I don't think the meaning of words and the logical interpretation of language is purely a matter of opinion. Whether you feel those rules are "good" (well-written, enjoyable, sensible, etc.) is. And I don't begrudge you for playing the game in the way you enjoy. Whether my opinion matters to you is not particularly important to me, but I have enjoyed the discussion and parsing out the description and thinking about how it could matter in a game. Exercises like these get the mind working and help me come up with ideas for my game. After a discussion like this, I can think of lots of ways to make use of a Ring of Spell Storing more interesting. It is too bad that you were so turned off by that one line that you refuse to take part in the conversation. I am interested what makes you feel that the rest of my post was "meaningless jibber jabber." Despite your misuse of the word "jibber jabber", you obviously feel my points have no merit. Or you just don't find the discussion interesting or useful to you (in which case, why bother posting?) Or is it that you may have found the post worth discussing but that one turn of phrase was so offensive to you that you no longer find the rest of the post worthwhile? For what its worth, I generally find your posts interesting—even those where the rules of logic and English prove your to be objectively wrong. :-) [/QUOTE]
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