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"I am the one who casts!" (Ring of Spell Storing)
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<blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 7178471" data-attributes="member: 6796661"><p>Regarding concentration:</p><p></p><p>According the Dungeon Master's Guide: </p><p></p><p> DMG 141 (emphasis mine). </p><p></p><p>In the July 7th episode of Dragon Talk, Jeremy Crawford discusses magic items. Starting at 21:37 he discusses the reasoning behind the rule that a spell cast from a magic item that requires concentration requires the user who cast the spell from the magic item to use his or her concentration. </p><p></p><p>"If it is a spell that requires concentration, does the user of the magic item have to concentrate when they cast the spell from that magic item."</p><p></p><p>"The answer to that question is you do have to concentrate, unless the item says otherwise. And there are a few items that say you don't have to concentrate."</p><p></p><p>He says that they this is an issue they predicted when working on the DMG, which is why it is in the book. </p><p></p><p>"That is something that is at the heart of our design. Not only spell casting, but also with magic items, because you'll see how we limit concentration spells, how atunement works with magic items, we also want magic users in our game to have to make interesting and sometimes tough choices."</p><p></p><p>Potions are not an exception unless the descriptions specifies. For example: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With a potion of flying, however, the rule doesn't state that you gain the effect of the fly spell. It states that you gain a flying speed equal to your walking speed for one hour. I would argue that you would NOT have to concentrate. </p><p></p><p>Actually, it seems if most if not all of the potions in the DMG that have the imbiber gain the effects of a spell of concentration state that no concentration is required. None of the potion descriptions describe the imbiber as casting a spell, merely gaining the effects of the spell. To keep consistent with the general rule, they specifically state that no concentration is required when gaining the effects of a spell that would require concentration if cast. </p><p></p><p>This seems to be major benefit of potions over other magic items. </p><p></p><p>A ring of spell storing, however, seems to be clearly be an example where concentration is required, based on RAW.</p><p></p><p>A DM, however, is free to create magic items that operate differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNblockhead, post: 7178471, member: 6796661"] Regarding concentration: According the Dungeon Master's Guide: DMG 141 (emphasis mine). In the July 7th episode of Dragon Talk, Jeremy Crawford discusses magic items. Starting at 21:37 he discusses the reasoning behind the rule that a spell cast from a magic item that requires concentration requires the user who cast the spell from the magic item to use his or her concentration. "If it is a spell that requires concentration, does the user of the magic item have to concentrate when they cast the spell from that magic item." "The answer to that question is you do have to concentrate, unless the item says otherwise. And there are a few items that say you don't have to concentrate." He says that they this is an issue they predicted when working on the DMG, which is why it is in the book. "That is something that is at the heart of our design. Not only spell casting, but also with magic items, because you'll see how we limit concentration spells, how atunement works with magic items, we also want magic users in our game to have to make interesting and sometimes tough choices." Potions are not an exception unless the descriptions specifies. For example: With a potion of flying, however, the rule doesn't state that you gain the effect of the fly spell. It states that you gain a flying speed equal to your walking speed for one hour. I would argue that you would NOT have to concentrate. Actually, it seems if most if not all of the potions in the DMG that have the imbiber gain the effects of a spell of concentration state that no concentration is required. None of the potion descriptions describe the imbiber as casting a spell, merely gaining the effects of the spell. To keep consistent with the general rule, they specifically state that no concentration is required when gaining the effects of a spell that would require concentration if cast. This seems to be major benefit of potions over other magic items. A ring of spell storing, however, seems to be clearly be an example where concentration is required, based on RAW. A DM, however, is free to create magic items that operate differently. [/QUOTE]
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