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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3881476" data-attributes="member: 22779">Strip away the fighter's weapons and he's useless on the spot.&nbsp; Ooo, d2 non-lethal attack that draws AOO's.&nbsp; Yeah, he's going to survive any length of time.&nbsp; High level wizard loses a spell book, teleports back home and gets a new one.&nbsp; But, I'm not talking about losing base equipment.&nbsp; I'm talking about losing the bling stuff that comes at high levels.&nbsp; Take away a wizard's MAGICAL (sorry wasn't specific before) equipment and he can replace most of it with spells.&nbsp; Take away a fighters MAGICAL equipment and he's screwed.What I'm saying is that your narrative doesn't work.&nbsp; He doesn't fall onto a swept slate.&nbsp; He hits that tree that was planted in the imperial courtyard and it breaks his fall.&nbsp; He catches an updraft.&nbsp; Heck, I don't know.&nbsp; What I'm saying is you've dictated a narrative that does NOT fit the results of the dice.&nbsp; It's no different than describing your attack as lethal before rolling damage.&nbsp; If the PC has 50 hit points, there is no way (barring magic) for a 1st level fighter to lop off his head in a single stroke of a longsword.&nbsp; (actually, not quite true, but, close enough)&nbsp; Thus, no matter how well you roll, max damage, crit, full power attack, doesn't matter, you cannot describe the attack as lethal.&nbsp; This is no different.D&amp;D is driven by Narrativium.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Why?&nbsp; Why are his organs exposed?&nbsp; Just because he's -2?&nbsp; He might simply have a very deep cut that is bleeding.&nbsp; That fits with the hp description.&nbsp; It's not as if you can NEVER describe hp damage as physical.&nbsp; That's not RAW.&nbsp; By RAW, you pick either physical damage or not so hurting damage, whichever fits best.Nope.&nbsp; Wrong.&nbsp; The fighter is John MacClean after Die Hard.&nbsp; He's chewed up.&nbsp; He's Conan by the end of most of the stories.&nbsp; He's be whacked a whole bunch of times.&nbsp; You drop the Heal spell and all those cuts and bruises and internal goodies heal over.&nbsp; He's still dirty, but he's not hurt (as much) anymore.&nbsp; Again, it's not binary.&nbsp; It's not that hp's are ONLY physical damage and it's not that HP are not physical damage.&nbsp; Pick the one that makes the most sense to the narrative at the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3881476, member: 22779"] Strip away the fighter's weapons and he's useless on the spot. Ooo, d2 non-lethal attack that draws AOO's. Yeah, he's going to survive any length of time. High level wizard loses a spell book, teleports back home and gets a new one. But, I'm not talking about losing base equipment. I'm talking about losing the bling stuff that comes at high levels. Take away a wizard's MAGICAL (sorry wasn't specific before) equipment and he can replace most of it with spells. Take away a fighters MAGICAL equipment and he's screwed. What I'm saying is that your narrative doesn't work. He doesn't fall onto a swept slate. He hits that tree that was planted in the imperial courtyard and it breaks his fall. He catches an updraft. Heck, I don't know. What I'm saying is you've dictated a narrative that does NOT fit the results of the dice. It's no different than describing your attack as lethal before rolling damage. If the PC has 50 hit points, there is no way (barring magic) for a 1st level fighter to lop off his head in a single stroke of a longsword. (actually, not quite true, but, close enough) Thus, no matter how well you roll, max damage, crit, full power attack, doesn't matter, you cannot describe the attack as lethal. This is no different. D&D is driven by Narrativium. :) Why? Why are his organs exposed? Just because he's -2? He might simply have a very deep cut that is bleeding. That fits with the hp description. It's not as if you can NEVER describe hp damage as physical. That's not RAW. By RAW, you pick either physical damage or not so hurting damage, whichever fits best. Nope. Wrong. The fighter is John MacClean after Die Hard. He's chewed up. He's Conan by the end of most of the stories. He's be whacked a whole bunch of times. You drop the Heal spell and all those cuts and bruises and internal goodies heal over. He's still dirty, but he's not hurt (as much) anymore. Again, it's not binary. It's not that hp's are ONLY physical damage and it's not that HP are not physical damage. Pick the one that makes the most sense to the narrative at the time. [/QUOTE]

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