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<blockquote data-quote="Danceofmasks" data-source="post: 4651871" data-attributes="member: 70765">And that's why I have nothing but disdain for humanity.Statements such as &quot;No matter what you claim, that child is human and therefore deserves to not suffer and die of dysentry.&quot;It's your morality talking, here.&nbsp;Yes, I can make decisions.&nbsp;So can anything that thinks, from insects to a character in a video game.Ants will do what ants do, because by behaving appropriately, the hive functions.Machines will make decisions based on their programming, sure .. and should they choose an inappropriate act, regardless of cause (such as a faulty sensor or whatever), then they are broken.&nbsp;Take a look around.Humans are broken.Every situation is a recipe for failure .. there wouldn't be drama otherwise.And all because they make decisions based on values and how those values feel.&nbsp;Yes, I'm claiming that humans are stupid, individually and collectively, because they fail at reason.There is no such thing as right and wrong, only functional and disfunctional.&nbsp;Look, there's a colony of army ants, wiping out everything in their vicinity and then ... they starve to death.If you're going to claim they're acting according to their values of freedom, friendship, comfort, security ... values are irrelevant.Take a snapshot of the future, and that is what their actions mean. And only that. It is not right, it is not wrong, it is simply action and consequence.&nbsp;Quit insulting me by lumping me in with your crowd.Take a look around, and tell me humans are functional. They are clearly not.And if you're going to say I'm mentally ill if I don't have morals, I'm going to counter with humanity being mentally ill because they fail at functional.Maybe, by definition, my actions can be considered relativism, but if that is the case, then a worker ant and a microwave oven are also relativists.The definition is @#$%!ed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Danceofmasks, post: 4651871, member: 70765"] And that's why I have nothing but disdain for humanity. Statements such as "No matter what you claim, that child is human and therefore deserves to not suffer and die of dysentry." It's your [I]morality[/I] talking, here. Yes, I can make decisions. So can [I]anything[/I] that thinks, from insects to a character in a video game. Ants will do what ants do, because by behaving appropriately, the hive functions. Machines will make decisions based on their programming, sure .. and should they choose an inappropriate act, regardless of cause (such as a faulty sensor or whatever), then they are [I]broken[/I]. Take a look around. Humans are [I]broken.[/I] Every situation is a recipe for failure .. there wouldn't be drama otherwise. And all because they make decisions based on values and how those values feel. Yes, I'm claiming that humans are stupid, individually and collectively, because they fail at reason. There is no such thing as right and wrong, only functional and disfunctional. Look, there's a colony of army ants, wiping out everything in their vicinity and then ... they starve to death. If you're going to claim they're acting according to their values of freedom, friendship, comfort, security ... values are irrelevant. Take a snapshot of the future, and that is what their actions mean. And [I]only[/I] that. It is not right, it is not wrong, it is simply action and consequence. Quit insulting me by lumping me in with your crowd. Take a look around, and tell me humans are functional. They are clearly not. And if you're going to say I'm mentally ill if I don't have morals, I'm going to counter with humanity being mentally ill [I]because they fail at functional[/I]. Maybe, by definition, my actions can be considered relativism, but if that is the case, then a worker ant and a microwave oven are also relativists. The definition is @#$%!ed. [/QUOTE]

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