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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 4651924" data-attributes="member: 834">Any given dilemna is resolved by evaluating the components of the problem.&nbsp; You said as much your self.But how do you give proper consideration?&nbsp; The claim that you give proper consideration to these factors is non-sensical unless you have a set of values to gauge them by.&nbsp; Otherwise, you'd be indifferent to all the factors you are evaluating.&nbsp; Even if you claim that you are looking for functionality, you are making a judgement right there that this is the most important thing (not that it is of much help in lots of situations).&nbsp; If you are offered a better paying and more stimulating job that takes you away from your family, do you take it?&nbsp; The answer depends on how much you value family vs career, companionship vs personal accomplishment.If your best friend, to whom you owe a serious favor, needs you to lie to the authorities in order to get him out of trouble, do you do it?&nbsp; It depends on how much you value friendship, honor (always pay your debt), comfort (your risk much by lying), honesty etc.A devout christian would tell you that the answers are in the bible.&nbsp; A moral relativist will tell you that it depends on the hierarchy of values you have internalized (culturally and personnally, through immersion and experience).We all have our own hierarchy of values.&nbsp; That's why we can make choices.&nbsp; Without them we'd be paralyzed because we'd be indifferent to all outcomes.&nbsp; And that hierarchy, mr amoral, are your moral values.&nbsp; Unless you swear to me that you spend your life in your basement and that you have never made a choice in your life, you have moral values.&nbsp; Not the exact same as me or anybody else, but moral values nonetheless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 4651924, member: 834"] Any given dilemna is resolved by evaluating the components of the problem. You said as much your self. But how do you give proper consideration? The claim that you give proper consideration to these factors is non-sensical unless you have a set of values to gauge them by. Otherwise, you'd be indifferent to all the factors you are evaluating. Even if you claim that you are looking for functionality, you are making a judgement right there that this is the most important thing (not that it is of much help in lots of situations). If you are offered a better paying and more stimulating job that takes you away from your family, do you take it? The answer depends on how much you value family vs career, companionship vs personal accomplishment. If your best friend, to whom you owe a serious favor, needs you to lie to the authorities in order to get him out of trouble, do you do it? It depends on how much you value friendship, honor (always pay your debt), comfort (your risk much by lying), honesty etc. A devout christian would tell you that the answers are in the bible. A moral relativist will tell you that it depends on the hierarchy of values you have internalized (culturally and personnally, through immersion and experience). We all have our own hierarchy of values. That's why we can make choices. Without them we'd be paralyzed because we'd be indifferent to all outcomes. And that hierarchy, mr amoral, are your moral values. Unless you swear to me that you spend your life in your basement and that you have never made a choice in your life, you have moral values. Not the exact same as me or anybody else, but moral values nonetheless. [/QUOTE]

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