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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 3828806" data-attributes="member: 12966">I agree, but there's no need to get personal. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I agree (again).  Most of the time, the primary problem is the creature sitting in front of the computer.  I don't believe that in this case.I have reloaded the machine 3 times since we bought it.  The problems became so severe that sometimes the machine wouldn't finish booting.  One problem was traced to a BIOS issue and reflashing the BIOS fixed it and another was a read error on the hard drive -- I'm not including those two in my harangue against Windows as they are obviously not Windows' fault.I shouldn't be able to crash a machine by running an application.  If I can, then the operating system is buggy and should be fixed.  In other words, Windows is broken.  And badly.I have laptops that run other operating systems which haven't been shutdown in months; they hibernate or sleep, but never reboot.  These are machines that I use for business purposes (multiple OOo windows, photo editing, Skype, and so forth).  These machines have applications that crash (some more than others), but they don't lock or crash the entire machine.  Every Windows machine I've had has crashed at least once, most of them quite a bit more than once.  All of them.</blockquote>

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