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<blockquote data-quote="catsclaw227" data-source="post: 3056504" data-attributes="member: 14197">I agree that it seems that the DM is inexperienced with 3.5, felt the encounters getting out of hand and did a terrible job winging it.&nbsp; His plan for the outcome wasn't happening the way he/she expected and choked a bit.Elf Witch, I wouldn't worry about it. Talk to the DM openly with the other players in a friendly manner in an effort to make the game better and I am sure that you'll get the whole story and the game will improve.But to play the devil's advocate for a smidgeon of a sec here....&nbsp;&nbsp; Reading this thread, I wonder why so many players feel like every encounter is supposed to be CR appropriate?&nbsp; I mean, if a party dashes over the hill to respond to cries, and then get mad if it's Hill Giants and they are 2nd level PCs, it's not the GMs fault if they take on the monsters and get their asses handed to them.Not every thing a party meets will be an evenly match CR appropriate encounter.&nbsp; Try GMing/playing a Necromacer Games module and you will know what I am talking about.Maybe in this scenario, there was suppposed to be ANOTHER way to save the PCs from jail, or maybe even find out the sentencing for their crimes and wait it the jail term or something else other than taking on the 13th level sorcerer/assassin.So many players seem to think that if their PCs are caught breaking the law, and are put in jail, then it must be time for a jail break.I don't know, if I am wrong about this, then never mind.[/rant]EDIT:&nbsp; OK -- Just read Elf Witch's most recent post.&nbsp; The DM is a Bozo.&nbsp; I can't believe that all this &quot;DM roleplaying the PC&quot; crap was happening!&nbsp; I would have stopped him and said. &quot;WAIT... I am not driving 90mph OK!&nbsp; And when I notice the 100 other cars going in the other direction I realize the problem.&quot;&nbsp; Why is the DM roleplaying your PC for you?&nbsp; Maybe it is time to leave the game.&nbsp; Are there other places you can play?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="catsclaw227, post: 3056504, member: 14197"] I agree that it seems that the DM is inexperienced with 3.5, felt the encounters getting out of hand and did a terrible job winging it. His plan for the outcome wasn't happening the way he/she expected and choked a bit. Elf Witch, I wouldn't worry about it. Talk to the DM openly with the other players in a friendly manner in an effort to make the game better and I am sure that you'll get the whole story and the game will improve. But to play the devil's advocate for a smidgeon of a sec here.... Reading this thread, I wonder why so many players feel like every encounter is supposed to be CR appropriate? I mean, if a party dashes over the hill to respond to cries, and then get mad if it's Hill Giants and they are 2nd level PCs, it's not the GMs fault if they take on the monsters and get their asses handed to them. Not every thing a party meets will be an evenly match CR appropriate encounter. Try GMing/playing a Necromacer Games module and you will know what I am talking about. Maybe in this scenario, there was suppposed to be ANOTHER way to save the PCs from jail, or maybe even find out the sentencing for their crimes and wait it the jail term or something else other than taking on the 13th level sorcerer/assassin. So many players seem to think that if their PCs are caught breaking the law, and are put in jail, then it must be time for a jail break. I don't know, if I am wrong about this, then never mind. [/rant] EDIT: OK -- Just read Elf Witch's most recent post. The DM is a Bozo. I can't believe that all this "DM roleplaying the PC" crap was happening! I would have stopped him and said. "WAIT... I am not driving 90mph OK! And when I notice the 100 other cars going in the other direction I realize the problem." Why is the DM roleplaying your PC for you? Maybe it is time to leave the game. Are there other places you can play? [/QUOTE]

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