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<blockquote data-quote="Kaptain_Kantrip" data-source="post: 150770" data-attributes="member: 546">To clarify what I said re: pdfs, there is really no way to effectively &quot;preview&quot; a pdf before purchasing it. It's an intangible thing hanging in cyberspace. Once you buy it, you're stuck with whatever it looks like. Since it's a cheap download made by fans and not professionals in some cases, you automatically expect less. The crunchy bits are played up in the product's advertising, because there is usually nothing else it offers in terms of bells and whistles. I am a big advocate of crunchy bits, but when it comes to buying expensive products at the store, I expect a certain level of &quot;shiny&quot; for my gaming dollar. Hypocritical? Maybe. But a lifetime of buying habits ain't gonna change easy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As to Talon Comics saying that he moves a lot of &quot;non-shiny&quot; stuff, I'm not surprised, as he caters to ENWorlders in his mail order sales, and seems to be a sharp cookie on how to move anything, in store or out. My local game shop, on the other hand, which does no mail order or internet sales and has only a marginal grasp of how to push product (instigated by my complaints in trying to establish a New Release section instead of just jamming everything &quot;library&quot; style into a wall unit in no particular order--not even alphabetically by company!), sells shiny first, ugly second (but usually not at all). They sell out of Kenzer, FFG, AEG, WoTC, Atlas and Mongoose products. Products by &quot;less shiny&quot; companies like Chaosium, Troll Lord, Hero's Journey, Mystic Eye, Thunderhead, etc., sit on the shelf and rot for months, if not years.&nbsp; I think my local game store is more indicative of how the public buys and how game stores (who tend to place more value on comics, toys and trading cards) in general operate. Fat, sweaty geeks in a veritable rummage sale of merchandise new and old, with no clue how to take their store out of the Stone Age into the shiny modern marketplace. Stereotype? Truism! Most stores I've seen are like this. The better organized, brighter, shinier ones sell more product.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaptain_Kantrip, post: 150770, member: 546"] To clarify what I said re: pdfs, there is really no way to effectively "preview" a pdf before purchasing it. It's an intangible thing hanging in cyberspace. Once you buy it, you're stuck with whatever it looks like. Since it's a cheap download made by fans and not professionals in some cases, you automatically expect less. The crunchy bits are played up in the product's advertising, because there is usually nothing else it offers in terms of bells and whistles. I am a big advocate of crunchy bits, but when it comes to buying expensive products at the store, I expect a certain level of "shiny" for my gaming dollar. Hypocritical? Maybe. But a lifetime of buying habits ain't gonna change easy. :) As to Talon Comics saying that he moves a lot of "non-shiny" stuff, I'm not surprised, as he caters to ENWorlders in his mail order sales, and seems to be a sharp cookie on how to move anything, in store or out. My local game shop, on the other hand, which does no mail order or internet sales and has only a marginal grasp of how to push product (instigated by my complaints in trying to establish a New Release section instead of just jamming everything "library" style into a wall unit in no particular order--not even alphabetically by company!), sells shiny first, ugly second (but usually not at all). They sell out of Kenzer, FFG, AEG, WoTC, Atlas and Mongoose products. Products by "less shiny" companies like Chaosium, Troll Lord, Hero's Journey, Mystic Eye, Thunderhead, etc., sit on the shelf and rot for months, if not years. I think my local game store is more indicative of how the public buys and how game stores (who tend to place more value on comics, toys and trading cards) in general operate. Fat, sweaty geeks in a veritable rummage sale of merchandise new and old, with no clue how to take their store out of the Stone Age into the shiny modern marketplace. Stereotype? Truism! Most stores I've seen are like this. The better organized, brighter, shinier ones sell more product. [/QUOTE]

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