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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1595984" data-attributes="member: 16019">Personally, although it's definitely possible to roleplay a tough character really well, it often stems (or leads to) metagaming.One particular instance that really bothers me is one guy in my group. He's a Dwarven Fighter that's begun taking levels in the Armor Pugilist prestige class from Beyond Monks d20 (basically, it's like a Monk that specializes in defense- gaining Natural Armor, Damage Reduction, and gradual Fortification against Crits and Sneak Attacks. They also gain an ability where if an opponent misses their AC by 1, their weapon takes damage). Anyway, there was an adventure a long time ago (back when he was around 3rd or 4th level of this class) when he was trying to gather some information about a new drug that's been said to turn people into monsters... and he went to one of the worse parts of town, asking about it. Anyway, he wasn't being discrete about this at all, and one guy heard him talking about it, and so when he was about to enter a tavern, the guy came up to him and stuck a crossbow to his back, threatening to kill him if he found out that he wasn't for real (you know, making sure it wasn't some sort of sting operation or something).Rather than act like anybody else would with a crossbow to his back, he (being a player with the mentality of the hero should always be heroic and all this crap) simply said, "Go ahead. Your arrow's just gonna break on my back."I took this as an incredibly meta-gamed response. After all, he had damage reduction, and natural armor, and tons and tons of hit points, but nobody in real life would ever invite someone to shoot them, no matter what. For example, a 20th level Barbarian has hundreds of hit points and DR of 5/-. But no Barbarian, ever, unless the player was Metagaming, would go ahead and tell someone to try and stab him with a dagger. There's a point where you're being heroic, and a point where you're being a metagamer. This, in my opinion, crossed the line quite a bit.</blockquote>

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