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Message: <blockquote data-quote="danbala" data-source="post: 617351" data-attributes="member: 8464">I would think that Jon Snow (and company) fit the bill of CG goodguy pretty well. Also I think Daeyns (sp?) has evolved into a very likable character. Also Samwell Tarley seems to be getting some guts to back up his moral sense. Bran and the Cragomen also seem fairly herioc.My sense is that people tend to object to the villains being portrayed sympathetically. I have heard that people are uncomfortable with Jaime's roll in the third novel. But, hey, people change. Some of histories greatest heroes were also villians in some sense -- often in ways that would seem to deny their acts of vallor.  LBJ, for example, was famously racist; that is, until he brokered the civil rights act.  Grant was a notorious drunk and a great general. There are many others.I happen to enjoy the fact that this level of complexity is reflected in the novels. To me, every time one of the heroes has doubts, is confused by events, or tempted to do wrong, its like a breath of fresh air.</blockquote>