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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 619013" data-attributes="member: 8704">I love these books, they have a more gritty realism to them than a lot of fantasy books, of course that is probably one of the reasons they are not universally liked. I have only been suprised by one of the deaths in the book (and she poped back to life) and I like it that people are dying, it's a war. I like the lack of a distinct hero in the book so far, but it mainly seems that that comes from the characters being so spread out. Jon Snow is the main hero of the book but hasn't actually interacted with the majority of the other people in the book yet, which makes me very interested in what is to come. It is a very deep world filled with gray characters, I loved how characters grow and change in the book, particularly Jamie and Tyrion. I think this story gets compared to Jordan's way too much, they are nothing alike with the exception of both having huge cast and more than 3 books. Martin's story will wrap up eventually and it keeps on moving at a good pace. Jordan's books are slowing down and getting broader in scope, it takes him 300 pages just to get through one day with all his characters, sometimes I just wish he would start a chapter with "and nothing important happened" and get on with people who matter, I don't need to read a transcript of every single conversation. I don't mind the amount of books in Jordan's saga just the quality, I got spoiled to 900 or so pages of good story every year (I started reading them when Eye of the World first came out), now I get 600 pages of ok story and filler with a couple of real good chapters here and there every two years. I have yet to see any problems like that with Martin's books, he is sticking to the point pretty good and seems to have a focus on where this is going.</blockquote>

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