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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bawylie" data-source="post: 6728749" data-attributes="member: 6776133">Don't pretend you weren't a contributor over at WOTC. And don't even try to suggest you weren't right there fomenting the conflicts you're now lamenting. You were there; I saw you do it. That you're now above it all is disingenuous. And your criticism of those of us who've migrated over from a closing board is weak. Apart from hypocrisy...The "warlord has bad connotations" argument only works if you ignore that "Rogue" and "Warlock" and "Demon" etc also have bad connotations. It's a bad argument. The "4E had a short run" argument is also stupid. There's no statute of limitations and no longevity requirements for good and bad ideas. It would be an absurd standard if it were applied at all. The "OSR proves people hate warlords" argument is worthless. It assumes people either cannot or do not enjoy "competing" products. But since we know people drink both Coke And Pepsi, or eat burritos And hamburgers, you can just throw out the idea that the popularity of one thing predicts the unpopularity of another. What it truly comes down to is a matter of taste. Someone wants NN. Someone else doesn't want any NN. What gets weird is that the people who don't want any NN also want to stop those that do want it from having it. And since that's insane, and everyone knows it, they have to come up with something that sounds like logic to have that viewpoint. But it's not logic, it's a load of waffle cloaked in self-righteousness. I don't like wizards as a class. Know what? I just don't play them. I don't demand their removal or argue their popularity or harangue the people that do like them. Live and let live, right?</blockquote>

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