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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6735999" data-attributes="member: 996">Yes.Casters who are casting, by definition, are making no attacks at all, so 1-4 more attacks, easily - plus action surge, when available.  Cantrips, the casters' answer to making attacks do scale in damage with level, but that doesn't entirely make up the difference.  Fighter (and Paladin & Barbarian, &c) DPR does get very impressive, and gives them a chance to shine relative to casters in 5e's balance scheme.  Like I said, numbers - whether the versatility & flexibility of number of choices, or the total number of hps ground out each round of multi-attacking - only count for so much.  The DM puts you in situations where your character's class can shine, you get some spotlight time, he lays off those for an extended period, you fade into the background.  Caster flexibility lets them shine in a wider variety of situations - but it also sets them up for the frustration of not being able to take full advantage of a situation because they don't have the right spell prepared.  FWIW.To slide back along this tangent to the point of intersection with the topic, though, the upshot is:  There's no appreciable risk of a 5e Warlord being so OP that it would actually mess with 5e's style of balance.  It'll can't help but be lower DPR than the other non-casters, and less versatile than the casters.</blockquote>