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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 6736735" data-attributes="member: 6801209">Yes, they can grant 4+ attacks for long enough to cover combat.   Yes, they arn't doing much else.  Unless you count the double speed, +2 AC, and advantage on Dex saves that goes along with haste.  They still have some spell slots left, but not many.But then a hypothetical warlord using every action, every turn, wouldn't be doing much else either.I remember it.  Again they still have some spell slots left.  So they can lose concentration a few times.And hypothetical warlord would effectively need to spend an action every round to maintain concentration.Which one?I never suggested also.  Each turn a warlord need to decide weather to grant a buff, or grant an attack.  He can't do everything at once.And where do you get "double" actions?Though haste also grants other benefits, so a higher level warlord granting movement as a bonus action, and +1d4 AC as a reaction is still in line.The sorcerer has plenty of other spells he can cast.  He just needs to decide if fireball is more effective then haste in a particular battle.Likewise, a warlord would have to decide if granting a buff is better then granting an attack on a particular turn.Again, how is it broken for one class to do something that another class can already do?Why do you think it was overpowered in 4e?I mean you certainly COULD make an overpowered warlord by granting full actions to 5 people with a +10 bonus to hit... but you can make any class overpowered.Yes.  Actions are resources.A warlord who spends all their actions to grant attacks all day, should match a sorcerer who spend all their resources granting attacks.Short days and the sorcerer will win.  Longer days and the warlord will win.</blockquote>

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