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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bawylie" data-source="post: 6753812" data-attributes="member: 6776133">For all that you have the same complaint for Bard (most don't, but that's ok), we tolerate the bard. But the objection seemingly doesn't apply to the warlord. Likewise, you're prepared to offer rationalization for the Battlemaster, but not extend that same rationale to the warlord. I'm not suggesting anyone should like any of these or dislike them, but I don't see why the rationale doesn't apply to warlords when the same mechanics are overlooked or given a pass on other classes. For instance the HP restoration. How does it restore skill, luck, or the will to live? Perhaps the same way the fighter's second wind does. Or the same way Champion's "survivor" feature works.  These are non-magical HP restoration, and by and large, they get a pass. Since they do, there's no reason they should stop working when a warlord uses them instead of a fighter. And there's no reason the objection should apply to class B and not to class A. On the issue of stopping bleeding? It doesn't. It doesn't have anything to do with physical injuries. On the issue of waking someone up? Well, there's a reasonable debate on whether such abilities ought to work on unconscious characters. I'm willing to leave it open to DM interpretation (though I'd personally rule it works on zero HP unconscious people, I have no problem with a DM ruling the other way).</blockquote>