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I don't actually get the opposition for the warlord... or rather the opposition to the concept.
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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 6755527" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>Not quite the same thing, and they are not as ubiquitous. So they are there, but toned down. Sounds like a compromise to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Healing surges are an option. One that I will not play with. As a DM or player. The consumable hit dice is again a compromise. I don't really like them, but they are not as bad as Healing Surges. I also don't like full healing over night.</p><p></p><p>So I am already overlooking or ignoring a lot of things I don't like because it makes other people happy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And it's still not enough? You want even more? Is this a "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" situation?</p><p></p><p>Those all annoy the crap out of me, but I ignore them. All of those are minor parts of the characters they are a part of.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again as an option. One that I will not play with. But at least it is an option for those that want it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thunder wave is magic and I believe allows a Saving Throw. Battlemaster is my least favorite Fighter subclass. For that reason and because he can only disarm people a few times, then forgets or something until he rests and remembers how again. With no reason as to <em>why</em> he can't disarm people all day long. Just, because no reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They do not get a pass. They get tolerated. And I will say this again, even though I have said it at least three times before. The Warlord takes all of these things that are "tolerated" as minor abilities of other classes and makes them his main thing. He wallows in nonsensical magical non-magic. He exalts in doing things with no explanation of how it is possible.</p><p></p><p>He takes all of the other silly things that are tolerated in other characters and cranks it up to 11.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How many times do I have to say it before it isn't ignored anymore? MAKE THE WARLORD AN OPTIONAL CLASS!</p><p></p><p>Just like Healing Surges. Just like Marking. Have at it! Have fun! Play them to your hearts content! Just keep them as optional just like all of the other things from 4e that many people (myself included) found objectionable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 6755527, member: 31754"] Not quite the same thing, and they are not as ubiquitous. So they are there, but toned down. Sounds like a compromise to me. Healing surges are an option. One that I will not play with. As a DM or player. The consumable hit dice is again a compromise. I don't really like them, but they are not as bad as Healing Surges. I also don't like full healing over night. So I am already overlooking or ignoring a lot of things I don't like because it makes other people happy. And it's still not enough? You want even more? Is this a "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" situation? Those all annoy the crap out of me, but I ignore them. All of those are minor parts of the characters they are a part of. Again as an option. One that I will not play with. But at least it is an option for those that want it. Thunder wave is magic and I believe allows a Saving Throw. Battlemaster is my least favorite Fighter subclass. For that reason and because he can only disarm people a few times, then forgets or something until he rests and remembers how again. With no reason as to [i]why[/i] he can't disarm people all day long. Just, because no reason. They do not get a pass. They get tolerated. And I will say this again, even though I have said it at least three times before. The Warlord takes all of these things that are "tolerated" as minor abilities of other classes and makes them his main thing. He wallows in nonsensical magical non-magic. He exalts in doing things with no explanation of how it is possible. He takes all of the other silly things that are tolerated in other characters and cranks it up to 11. How many times do I have to say it before it isn't ignored anymore? MAKE THE WARLORD AN OPTIONAL CLASS! Just like Healing Surges. Just like Marking. Have at it! Have fun! Play them to your hearts content! Just keep them as optional just like all of the other things from 4e that many people (myself included) found objectionable. [/QUOTE]
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