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<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 5792017" data-attributes="member: 34865"><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">I take an arrow to the knee.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Now that my mixed memes are out of the way...</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">something I'd like to see returned to <strong>D&D</strong> in <em>N</em> are non-nerfed monsters, specifically the rust monster.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Now, I can take an <strong>AD&D</strong> rust monster, call it a <em>dire</em> Rust Monster, and put it in 4e. Keep the rust monster effects, just use the 4e stats, and dispense with that "hey kids, if it eats your <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> don't worry, just carve it open, and voila! Powdered magic item inside, just add water!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">It's just that the old 4e rules tell me I'm a bad DM for doing that, and tell players I'm a bad DM for doing that.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">If I'm at a con and I want to run some <strong>D&D</strong><em>n</em> for a group, I'd really like to not have to deal with the baggage of "You're being a jerk! Rust monsters," (or gelatinous cubes (are they still there?), or yellow mold, or green slime, or ochre jelly, or drow weapons, or whatever the teeth was taken from over the years) "don't do that anymore!"</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">At least leave the option in and make it known that this <em>can</em> happen, and no I'm not a colossal <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> for running a game with those things.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'">Also the same to magic-item shopping lists but I'll stop lest this be perceived as a broad-front "I don't like 4e and here's why" post ('cause it ain't.)</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'century gothic'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 5792017, member: 34865"] [font=century gothic] I take an arrow to the knee. Now that my mixed memes are out of the way... something I'd like to see returned to [b]D&D[/b] in [i]N[/i] are non-nerfed monsters, specifically the rust monster. Now, I can take an [b]AD&D[/b] rust monster, call it a [i]dire[/i] Rust Monster, and put it in 4e. Keep the rust monster effects, just use the 4e stats, and dispense with that "hey kids, if it eats your :):):):) don't worry, just carve it open, and voila! Powdered magic item inside, just add water!" It's just that the old 4e rules tell me I'm a bad DM for doing that, and tell players I'm a bad DM for doing that. If I'm at a con and I want to run some [b]D&D[/b][i]n[/i] for a group, I'd really like to not have to deal with the baggage of "You're being a jerk! Rust monsters," (or gelatinous cubes (are they still there?), or yellow mold, or green slime, or ochre jelly, or drow weapons, or whatever the teeth was taken from over the years) "don't do that anymore!" At least leave the option in and make it known that this [i]can[/i] happen, and no I'm not a colossal :):):):):):):) for running a game with those things. Also the same to magic-item shopping lists but I'll stop lest this be perceived as a broad-front "I don't like 4e and here's why" post ('cause it ain't.) [/font] [/QUOTE]
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