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<blockquote data-quote="Bill Zebub" data-source="post: 9723848" data-attributes="member: 7031982">The goal I was describing wasn't to get people to try something different from their own, but simply to feel like they can try non-traditional race/class combinations (so that it's not always elven wizards, orc barbarians, and halfling rogues) without having a mechanical penalty.&nbsp; Sure, I'd love it if more players didn't are about that additional +1 to their prime stat modifier, but the reality is that an awful lot of them do.Eh, I don't buy the &quot;humans with funny hats&quot; argument just because elves don't get +2 to dexterity.&nbsp; A bunch of races get dexterity bonuses, so how is that uniquely elven?The really distinctive racial characteristics are the ones that are actual abilities, like immunity to sleep and charm, or the ability to recognize stonework, or whatever.&nbsp; Yes, it can be tricky to design those such that they don't suggest some classes over others, but that's not a reason to not try.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bill Zebub, post: 9723848, member: 7031982"] The goal I was describing wasn't to get people to try something different from their own, but simply to feel like they can try non-traditional race/class combinations (so that it's not always elven wizards, orc barbarians, and halfling rogues) without having a mechanical penalty. Sure, I'd love it if more players didn't are about that additional +1 to their prime stat modifier, but the reality is that an awful lot of them do. Eh, I don't buy the "humans with funny hats" argument just because elves don't get +2 to dexterity. A bunch of races get dexterity bonuses, so how is that uniquely elven? The really distinctive racial characteristics are the ones that are actual abilities, like immunity to sleep and charm, or the ability to recognize stonework, or whatever. Yes, it can be tricky to design those such that they don't suggest some classes over others, but that's not a reason to not try. [/QUOTE]

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