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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9724679" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, I think Tolkien actually kind of thought in a somewhat D&D-ish way (or vice-versa) here because beings who can say lift thousands of pounds get defeated in one-on-one combat by beings who are just like, human.I think this actually illustrates the "stat vs. specific ability" pretty well. Like, I think he'd have been fine with Bullroarer Took having the same to hit and damage bonus as Grognar of the Rock-People or whoever, the same bonus to Athletics. Like that in combat or climbing or swimming, they're actually well-matched. But Grognar of the Rock-People would have Powerful Build, which gives Grognar Advantage on checks to break Grapples and Grognar of the Rock-People counts as one size larger when checking carry/lift capacity (so a total of what, two sizes larger than Bullroarer?).I'm not being difficult when I say I genuinely think this is a good illustration of why to use specific abilities for heroic fantasy, epic fantasy, hell even most dark fantasy features similar situations. The Witcher often parries beings weighing 3-10x as much as he does, beings who can push over trees, and yeah there's no way he's benching as much as them. There's no way he's crushing a rock to dust like them. But is he hitting for same sort of damage and with the same sort of chance as them? Yeah actually he pretty much is. Maybe for more even...(I will say I think if we went for "realism" in fantasy things would look a lot more like The Boys than Tolkien.)</blockquote>

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