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I don't get the arguments for bioessentialism
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9727168" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I'm not seeing it completely myself, because I don't agree that those people are at the top, but perhaps my understanding of the Imperial power structure is different to yours?</p><p></p><p>As I understand it, in recent editions, the rulers of the Imperium are still The High Lords of Terra who are still woefully corrupt and greedy individuals and very much want to preserve the theofascism and disobeyance of the Emperor's will (literally his entire deal was "yo let's kill all the gods and religions, even the nice ones"). The Ecclesiarchy are even worse.</p><p></p><p>I think the only really solidly "problematic" issue is with Roboute Guillman because they want to have their cake and eat it, with him being "very powerful" (I dunno about de facto leader of the Imperium because he's less powerful than the High Lords of Terra imho) but also not able to redirect the Imperium at a fundamental level. I agree that they should have made him less powerful to fit with this scheme. Like, have the Ultramarines be openly at-odds with the Lords of Terra and so on, rather than it being vaguely implied.</p><p></p><p>I'd also like to see the individual High Lords of Terra brought more to the forefront as villains.</p><p></p><p>But I would suggest that, whilst I get where you're coming from, it's very different in style:</p><p></p><p>In 3/4/5E, they literally are apologists for the theofascism, the genocides, the pointless slaughters, and so on (I mean apologists in the most accurate sense of the word, not the colloquial).</p><p></p><p>In 8/9/10E, they are clearly against the theofascism, present the theofascists as "bad" (even like the one Space Marine legion who are fully "like that", the Black Templars), but they keep trying to make out the Custodes and Guilleman are "good guys", which I agree rings a little hollow but I do think points in the right direction.</p><p></p><p>I guess I agree with you because you use the word "accidental", because with 3/4/5E, it wasn't an accident. It also wasn't because they wanted to promote theofascism, but they knew what they were doing. Where he's it's like "Uh we have good guys in the Imperium, how do we do that?", and it's a bit of a mess.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9727168, member: 18"] I'm not seeing it completely myself, because I don't agree that those people are at the top, but perhaps my understanding of the Imperial power structure is different to yours? As I understand it, in recent editions, the rulers of the Imperium are still The High Lords of Terra who are still woefully corrupt and greedy individuals and very much want to preserve the theofascism and disobeyance of the Emperor's will (literally his entire deal was "yo let's kill all the gods and religions, even the nice ones"). The Ecclesiarchy are even worse. I think the only really solidly "problematic" issue is with Roboute Guillman because they want to have their cake and eat it, with him being "very powerful" (I dunno about de facto leader of the Imperium because he's less powerful than the High Lords of Terra imho) but also not able to redirect the Imperium at a fundamental level. I agree that they should have made him less powerful to fit with this scheme. Like, have the Ultramarines be openly at-odds with the Lords of Terra and so on, rather than it being vaguely implied. I'd also like to see the individual High Lords of Terra brought more to the forefront as villains. But I would suggest that, whilst I get where you're coming from, it's very different in style: In 3/4/5E, they literally are apologists for the theofascism, the genocides, the pointless slaughters, and so on (I mean apologists in the most accurate sense of the word, not the colloquial). In 8/9/10E, they are clearly against the theofascism, present the theofascists as "bad" (even like the one Space Marine legion who are fully "like that", the Black Templars), but they keep trying to make out the Custodes and Guilleman are "good guys", which I agree rings a little hollow but I do think points in the right direction. I guess I agree with you because you use the word "accidental", because with 3/4/5E, it wasn't an accident. It also wasn't because they wanted to promote theofascism, but they knew what they were doing. Where he's it's like "Uh we have good guys in the Imperium, how do we do that?", and it's a bit of a mess. [/QUOTE]
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