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I don't get the arguments for bioessentialism
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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9727767" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I don't know that <em>consistency</em> is a goal here. I am not sure I care if someone else's take on lizardfolk matches mine, for instance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right.</p><p></p><p>So, koa-toa society will have to differ from human, due to the qualities of the water they live deep within (unless we do away with some of those issues with magic).</p><p></p><p>....especially because, biologically and evolutionarily speaking, "fish" isn't really a thing - we no longer view Pisces to be a phylogenic group, because any inclusive group of "fish" ends up including... all tetrapods, including us. </p><p></p><p>To speak about them like we do humans, we have to be much more specific - what <em>family/clade of fish</em> are kuo-toa like?</p><p></p><p>Then we should also note that, in building cities with thousands of people, we humans are pretty clearly <em>deviating</em> from basic primate behavior...</p><p></p><p>That's part of the thing about sentience - it allows the creature to greatly deviate its behavior from biological roots. That is likely its major evolutionary benefit.</p><p></p><p>Thus, if humans deviate from primate behavior, kuo-toa should deviate from fish behavior. If both of us are building cities, should we mot consider the idea that sentience is paving over most of the differences?</p><p></p><p>Then we are back to using species largely as a stand-in for culture...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9727767, member: 177"] I don't know that [I]consistency[/I] is a goal here. I am not sure I care if someone else's take on lizardfolk matches mine, for instance. Right. So, koa-toa society will have to differ from human, due to the qualities of the water they live deep within (unless we do away with some of those issues with magic). ....especially because, biologically and evolutionarily speaking, "fish" isn't really a thing - we no longer view Pisces to be a phylogenic group, because any inclusive group of "fish" ends up including... all tetrapods, including us. To speak about them like we do humans, we have to be much more specific - what [I]family/clade of fish[/I] are kuo-toa like? Then we should also note that, in building cities with thousands of people, we humans are pretty clearly [I]deviating[/I] from basic primate behavior... That's part of the thing about sentience - it allows the creature to greatly deviate its behavior from biological roots. That is likely its major evolutionary benefit. Thus, if humans deviate from primate behavior, kuo-toa should deviate from fish behavior. If both of us are building cities, should we mot consider the idea that sentience is paving over most of the differences? Then we are back to using species largely as a stand-in for culture... [/QUOTE]
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