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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 5699821" data-attributes="member: 48965">Hey... you asked a question and I gave you an honest answer. I feel like this always happens in threads where someone is curious about why certain people don't like a particular aspect of 4e.  Reasons for not liking somethinng are posted in good faith in the thread... but really there's no effort of trying to understand it's more an opportunity for those who like whatever aspect of 4e we are discussing to rush in and tell all those who don't like that particular aspect why they should (very few posters try to understand the issues peole have and suggest ways to change 4e to suit their tastes)... it's pointless and tiring... and in all honesty has done more to put me off 4e than the actual game has. A prime example is the grind and length of combat, the suggestions from posters on how to fix it has made 4e at least a little more palatable for me and my group.... telling me I'm imagining it or that if I dealt with the combat of earlier editions I should accept it in no way helps and in fact irritates me more. But hey to each his own.</blockquote>