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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5703844" data-attributes="member: 957">I mean I want to feel like I am in a novel and TO HELL with "game".Winning and Losing and anything REMOTELY like that are negligible to the true fun of what I experience.  I want great mechanics for creating a consistent model for how things interact.  So instantly that brings "game" into it.  And that is great.  I love the game that is there to support my story.  But the instant you start saying "yeah this isn't the way it would work in a novel, but it mechanically gets you to the same endpoint and is better for the game balance/game simplicity/game whatever, then you have gone off the rails for the experience I want.</blockquote>