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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5707684" data-attributes="member: 6668292">No, HP never gives you "my leg is hurt!" as a wound, but I don't think the call in this thread has been for that. So, I'm not really sure why it's being brought up as a defense. It's not about whether a wound affects a particular area, or how deep it is, etc. The HP system is supposed to be abstract enough to allow multiple ways of handling description.No, what's being brought up is whether or not a wound can be theoretically long term. If the wound takes a long time to heal, you're probably pretty hurt. If the wound takes a short time to heal, you're probably not. It doesn't need to be completely "quantified", it just needs to be able to simulate short term wounds and long term wounds (to satisfy my narrative wants). I also wanted crippling as an option, and I think there's real potential there, too (if you're crippled instead of dead).... which is why I've said I'm for a mechanic that allows this to happen, like, oh I don't know, healing surges <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As a side note, Inigo wouldn't have been in the negatives in pre-4e, as he was still conscious. He may have been at 0 (badly wounded and staggered). A surge to get to his feet and continue.And now you're reached where I want two HP pools! One for "physical" and one for "other". You whittle down the "other" pool and then you get to hit them physically.My RPG even has an unrelated mechanic that would help here. If you ever deal physical damage to someone (so you're bypassed their other pool) with a melee weapon, you can skip dealing damage to keep a readied attack on them (if they do anything, hit them). If you choose to hit them, you deal not physical damage to them, even if their "other" HP pool is refreshed or in play (since it refreshes by round in my game).This would mean that Wesley took down Inigo's "other" HP pool, disarmed him,  hit his "physical" HP pool but didn't deal damage (scratched his cheek), and readied to hurt him if he did anything (which Inigo knew would hit his "physical" HP pool), actually wounding or killing him. Thus, he didn't go for his sword.I'm not arguing that 3.X is perfect. I'm saying healing surges are imperfect as implemented, and he's how I'd work them in with the changes I made from 3.X (as 3.X wasn't good enough for me).He was only mostly dead <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />According to Miracle Max, he wasn't truly dead. He was just really messed up -sounds like a long term wound to me. Miracle Max makes a distinction that there's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead -mostly dead is slightly alive.Well, that's way better than what Wesley had. That, and it's not in the rules. I think the idea of adding a long term injury to the rules is very reasonable, but that's me. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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