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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5718503" data-attributes="member: 22779">Immersion to the point where all of your actions are 100% based in the narrative of the game and absolutely no meta-gaming is going on at all?&nbsp; I don't have a problem with immersion either.&nbsp; In any edition.&nbsp; But, to the degree that BryonD is talking about?&nbsp; That I've never seen.And, I'll give you a perfect example of why I don't think this is a consideration.&nbsp; Take JamesonCourage for a moment.&nbsp; Earlier, he talked about how serious wounds had an impact on his campaign some 8-10 times.&nbsp; Sounds like a lot right?But, IIRC, his last campaign was 5 years and some 2-3000 hours of gameplay long.&nbsp; That means that serious wounds came into play once ever 200 hours of game play.&nbsp; I don't know about you, but, I run entire campaigns in less play time than that.This is why I characterize it as, not so much a large narrative space, but a narrative puddle.&nbsp; If this is something that comes up once a campaign, at best, who cares?&nbsp; Do we really want to have mechanics for that?So, back to BryonD's question about supporting a playstyle, in light of JamesonCourage's post, this is why I couldn't really care less that this has been excised from 4e.&nbsp; It's such a tiny corner case that why should I care?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5718503, member: 22779"] Immersion to the point where all of your actions are 100% based in the narrative of the game and absolutely no meta-gaming is going on at all? I don't have a problem with immersion either. In any edition. But, to the degree that BryonD is talking about? That I've never seen. And, I'll give you a perfect example of why I don't think this is a consideration. Take JamesonCourage for a moment. Earlier, he talked about how serious wounds had an impact on his campaign some 8-10 times. Sounds like a lot right? But, IIRC, his last campaign was 5 years and some 2-3000 hours of gameplay long. That means that serious wounds came into play once ever 200 hours of game play. I don't know about you, but, I run entire campaigns in less play time than that. This is why I characterize it as, not so much a large narrative space, but a narrative puddle. If this is something that comes up once a campaign, at best, who cares? Do we really want to have mechanics for that? So, back to BryonD's question about supporting a playstyle, in light of JamesonCourage's post, this is why I couldn't really care less that this has been excised from 4e. It's such a tiny corner case that why should I care? [/QUOTE]

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