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I don't get the dislike of healing surges
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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 5718850" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>I can get away with regulating or not using certain magic items. I don't like Healing Surges at all, so I'd rather not use them then simply regulate them. I seriously doubt any 4e players would be ok if I got rid of Healing Surges. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is what I don't understand.</p><p></p><p>4e players complain about Healing Wands cause they prevented the 15 minute adventuring days. Then 4e players praise Healing Surges cause they prevent the 15 minute adventuring days.</p><p></p><p>I also don't see how there is any difference between the amount of healing you do in 4e compared to other editions using tons of wands. It's as "infinite" as anything else people got away with. If they had wands, then they might go several extra encounters before running out of other spells and needing to rest. In 4e, Healing Surges are made to purposely allow you to go several more encounters before you run out of powers and need to rest. </p><p></p><p>The only difference I see is that Healing Surges don't cost anything, you're guaranteed to have them every day, everyone has them, and you don't need to rely on anyone else to use them. So why complain about wands as if they made the game too easy? Healing Surges are worse about making the game easier than wands could ever be.</p><p></p><p>Besides, anyone complaining about wands brought that problem on themselves. In my 12 years of running a <strong>Planescape</strong> campaign, I've never had that issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 5718850, member: 18701"] I can get away with regulating or not using certain magic items. I don't like Healing Surges at all, so I'd rather not use them then simply regulate them. I seriously doubt any 4e players would be ok if I got rid of Healing Surges. :lol: This is what I don't understand. 4e players complain about Healing Wands cause they prevented the 15 minute adventuring days. Then 4e players praise Healing Surges cause they prevent the 15 minute adventuring days. I also don't see how there is any difference between the amount of healing you do in 4e compared to other editions using tons of wands. It's as "infinite" as anything else people got away with. If they had wands, then they might go several extra encounters before running out of other spells and needing to rest. In 4e, Healing Surges are made to purposely allow you to go several more encounters before you run out of powers and need to rest. The only difference I see is that Healing Surges don't cost anything, you're guaranteed to have them every day, everyone has them, and you don't need to rely on anyone else to use them. So why complain about wands as if they made the game too easy? Healing Surges are worse about making the game easier than wands could ever be. Besides, anyone complaining about wands brought that problem on themselves. In my 12 years of running a [B]Planescape[/B] campaign, I've never had that issue. [/QUOTE]
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