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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5724416" data-attributes="member: 22779">Ahh, now here we get to a decent point.  So, on any given night, you have more PC's than are standard, almost to the point of having twice as many PC's as presumed.  I assume your DM did not alter the module to suit that fact.  So, right off the bat, your party is about 1-3 levels higher than the presumed party average, depending on how many show up that night.  Or, to put it another way, any EL par encounter is now an easy encounter.And, just as a wild guess, I'd say you die rolled all your characters and, if you actually converted them to point buy, even the weakest would still be well higher than 25 point buy.  Likely well into the 30's.Again, that bumps your effective party level by at least one level.Yes, you do.  Heck, the designers DESIGNED it so that you do.  4 EL par encounters is meant to be the upper limit of an adventuring day.  That 5th one is SUPPOSED to kill PC's.  If you are regularly going into encounters at 20% of resources, then you are supposed to be losing PC's.How do you do that?If you're multiclassing into warrior classes, then at 5th or 6th level, you don't HAVE any nasty spells to use.  You've got second level spells at best.I think the fact that you have a large sized party, and likely were making characters with very high point buy value made the largest difference.</blockquote>