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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5726879" data-attributes="member: 54877">I'm not a Forge-ite. I reject utterly the idea that a group must be focused on a given creative agenda at a given time, lest the game become disfunctional. I like peanut butter in my chocolate. I like my game play mixed heavily with metagaming constructs that move the story forward and "just enough" simulation of the world to ground the players in the setting. I don't want a great novel. I want a Fafhrd and Gray Mouser short story, with continuing characters.  No game really does exactly what I want. 4E does a pretty good job of actively supporting part of what I want, and staying the hell out of the way on most of the rest of it. (It's native magic items are a negative exception, but they are gradually moving the design to something more palatable.)  I like Burning Wheel, too. For a more hard-core version of what I like, BW works great. But there are two problems with it, for me: 1. I really don't like scripting, and I doubt the players in our group will ever master the mechanics enough to make it sing the way it is supposed to. 2. BW is high energy, all the time. Right now, I'm low energy, all the time. 4E requires a much lower expenditure of energy at the gaming table to make it work well. The ceiling is higher with BW than with 4E, but the floor is lower. I know my current limits. I like Fantasy Hero and Runequest. Right now, too much prep work to make them sing, and there are a host of minor irritants in the rule set that I keep trying to tweak, but am never quite satisfied with. I'd rather deal with one big irritant of 4E magic items (which I can deal with), than a list of minor irritants that are like ants at the picnic.  I think the concept of "disassociation" is a fundamental misunderstanding of how 4E works, which like pemerton, I wrote what I had to say in the massive topic of that name. There is a sense in which anyone thinking that "disassociation" is a good concept has a mental block that will prohibit them from understanding why I would like 4E. I direct interested parties wishing to bridge that barrier to that topic, as I have already said my piece on it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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