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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5883375" data-attributes="member: 177">It most definitely is a thing.&nbsp; For use as a reference for a tactical skirmish game, having them separated out is good.&nbsp; For having them be part of an imaginative role-play experience, intermingling them is probably better.&nbsp; Unfortunately, D&amp;D is both, so the goals wind up a bit at odds.&nbsp; Which one a player is going to prefer will depend on what the particular player wants out of the game, and some other aspects of the design.Basically, the more the rules make you need to look things up, the more useful the separated version will be.&nbsp; I think there was an idea that, if you separate the two, it becomes clear that reskinning the fluff is easy and reasonable.&nbsp; I think they may have over-estimated how much people desire reskinning.&nbsp; In a strict mechanical and mathematical sense, I think you're pretty demonstrably wrong.&nbsp; However, insofar as the two games are designed to yield rather similar results, you may have some point there.&nbsp; Kind of like saying an Apple and a Dell laptop are the same thing - they aren't in detail, but if you take the &quot;10,000 foot view&quot;, they kind of are.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5883375, member: 177"] It most definitely is a thing. For use as a reference for a tactical skirmish game, having them separated out is good. For having them be part of an imaginative role-play experience, intermingling them is probably better. Unfortunately, D&D is both, so the goals wind up a bit at odds. Which one a player is going to prefer will depend on what the particular player wants out of the game, and some other aspects of the design. Basically, the more the rules make you need to look things up, the more useful the separated version will be. I think there was an idea that, if you separate the two, it becomes clear that reskinning the fluff is easy and reasonable. I think they may have over-estimated how much people desire reskinning. In a strict mechanical and mathematical sense, I think you're pretty demonstrably wrong. However, insofar as the two games are designed to yield rather similar results, you may have some point there. Kind of like saying an Apple and a Dell laptop are the same thing - they aren't in detail, but if you take the "10,000 foot view", they kind of are. [/QUOTE]

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