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Message: <blockquote data-quote="chubbyloremaster" data-source="post: 5726211" data-attributes="member: 6681181">Thnak you all for the effort of looking into this problem. It encouraged me to look up  about objectivism and Ayan Rand in order to confront my players, and get some clarifications from them.After a very long discussion I now know what they ment by me being hedonistic and how objectivism is tied to D&D.First would be the topic of game entitlement and time spent on work. I came form a perspective that I risk more than the players in terms of work because my job is much more important than their will ever be and therefore I am in power to manage the game as I see fit and they should respect it or leave.The objectivist response stated me that it doesn't matter how much work did it took for another person and how great risk did that person takes, the only one that matters is "I" and agreeing to a game which would not meet the demands of the objectivism would be self-sacrefice which as it apears it is the greatest sin for these kinds of people.Second, would be GM authority. These objectivists believed that the GM thinks that his vision of playing the game is the one that should be accepted and therefore he is considered a hedonist by the sole fact that he for his own pleasure he allows the game to end after a TPK, just like Bill Tagart opinion on rich people.Basicly what Bill Tagart meant was to make all rich people give up their riches and help support the goverment, and he is here the DM. Bill also said that he does'nt requier talented people and here is where he met his doom. This is an analogy to how I allowed my veteran players go and started a new group with my other friends who were new to D&D. Summing it up it would appear that being a GM is the worst kind of job ever because you have to work hard and agree with the players on every corner which makes you a sinner beacause you practice self-sacrefice or you can go back and leave, and if you don't you are branded a hedonist who takes pleasure with making people suffer. I'm now trying to be a very open minded person but the next time I hear some of my players being a a radian hero/objectivist I will have a small talk, with him, about his future in the game to escape a bloodbath.When I first started this thread I didn't thought this would end the way it did but now I sense that I lost some respect to some players out there due to these experiance.</blockquote>

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