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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5919082" data-attributes="member: 22779">Meh, who bloody cares how many editions something has been in?  What difference does it make?  Half-orcs have only been in two editions, so we should not include them?  Gnomes have not been in every edition, so, they should go too?  Good grief.I really, REALLY don't get the problem here.  There seems to be two issues:1.  Space requirements.  Ok, fair enough.  If each race gets a full page write up, then, yeah, that could be an issue.  But, who needs that much of a write-up?  Most of it is filler that gets read once and then completely ignored.  Basic D&D manages to present four races in a page.  I cannot remember how much space races took up in 1e.  There's no reason to stick to the 1 race=1 page thing.  And certainly no reason to go with the two page spread from 4e.  That's just padding page count.  Heck, with a bit of editing and some smaller art, you could fit twice as many races in the 4e books with the same page count.  IOW, this is not an issue.2.  Anything in the PHB will be asked for by players.  Look, you're big people.  You're the DM.  You're wearing the big daddy pants.  If you need something to be removed from the PHB to give you the authority to remove something from your campaign, you have MUCH larger issues at play here.  Grow a pair and tell your players that you are not allowing race X in your campaign world.  It really does work.  I've been banning elves from my games for nigh on twenty years.  Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it shouldn't be included.  Dragonborn are a player race, no different than ANY other player race.  The DM can fold, spindle, and/or maul anything he/she so desires to create a campaign.  The authority of being the DM is not derived from what appears between the covers of the PLAYER'S handbook.</blockquote>

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